Chris5128

I hit two today both buried about 3 inches under the cambium. One at waist height the other just above ground level. I assume there was a wire fence there at some point. But that's the first time in months so just one of those days.

Your missing the point "sadly" is me saying someone gets seriously injured and say hypothetical the insurance doesn't pay out for you falling out of the tree on a non ce marked system/ non recognised system of work for example.

 

A court battle could ensue from the boss against the insurance, you against your boss and possibly your boss against you.

 

Possibly outcome worst case: you don't get that payout you need.

 

Not rocket science, just a very good reason why what Ben and nod are doing is extremely important.

 

The way I see it is the industry is evolving at a rapid rate and standards are behind, dare is say it we could probably do with our own EN testing numbers. For example just google some of your equipments EN numbers during lunch.

 

Which in itself would in my eyes probably make the industry better for testing of safety equipment.

 

Just how I see it and I'm more than holy to be enlightened and explained of the error of my thoughts.

 

Ian

I see, cheers for clearing that up. When you said court I thought you were going to say that srt is actually against some sort of regulation. I didn't think about the the insurance side of it to be honest.

Sadly I think the only way we would know for sure is sadly someone going to court over it. There's no history of it happening so, it's all best guess at what will happen.

Why would people go to court over it? I'm employed and use srt on most trees. I never actually asked my boss just brought a wrench and played about on it until I felt comfortable. It's no more dangerous in my eyes then drt. I do think it would be good to have a separate industry standard qualification as it is different to doubled rope.

Yeah you can. if you download the lot it's going to take up some serious space, so I've spent the day steaming it then I'll probably download a couple of parts take it out, and do a little rec climb with it

Just watching this now was a bit sceptical at first because I hate spending money and didn't think I'd get much out of it but the blokes great both with his own ideas and explaining other people's. Well worth a watch weather you've been doing srt for 5 minutes or 5 years

About the same size and climb on a tree motion everything on it can be adjusted. Took me a while to adjust everything correctly but once I did its a amazing harness

Only talking from a newbies perspective as this is what I was answering to. If they have never climbed before then it might not be the best approch to learn on. Can become gear locked with ascenders etc if not experianced in there use. As i stated though if someone turned up with the right attitude and knowledge then I would be happy for them to climb on SRT. As for your climbing assessment then. If SRT is what you climb on day to day then use it. Expect lots of questions on why do you use it and pros and cons of SRT Vs DDRT. If they have staff already using SRT then they might already be aware but testing to see if you know your stuff. Expect them to know bugger all about it though and you won't go wrong

Yeah im confident with it. I'll go srt worse case scenario I can always swap to hitch climber

Had a chat, had a quick climb, did a couple of limb walks

Happy days sounds easy did you get the job in the end?

Yeah I'm sure it'll be fine I know I can climb. I'm just used to working for the same people everyday so your sort of get into a rhythm. What did you have to do for your nz one? I'm not really sure what to expect.

I've got an exam coming up in a couple weeks for an opportunity to work abroad. I'm more nervous about it then I probably should be because I'm from a small island and I'm thinking big fish in a little pond type affair. Has anyone ever done a test like this before if so what was involved in it for you?

My tuppence worth. When I teach a climbing course the first thing a student learns practically is a 3 knot system. This is incase anything goes wrong they still have the means to effect a rescue even if they dont have a prussik loop etc. As long as they know how to tie this they can use what they want to complete the course. Only one stipilation is that they can show me what they are going to use and that they are competant in setting it up. Saying that i would be cautious if someone wanted to use Srt unless they showed sound knowledge and had a good grasp of the principles involved.

Why would you be cautious with srt. The only reason I ask is because I've got a climbing competence test to do in two weeks time and I was going to use my rope wrench as that's what I climb on everyday now. The test is for a big opportunity and I don't want to throw off the examiner/interviewer by climbing srt.

What I want to know is how you ninjas are isolating an anchor point 70ft up to install the pinto! 😃😃 and getting the job done quick time! Definitely taking notes though incase I accidentally get a good throw bag shot!

Big shot. to be honest more often then not im base tying it then isolating my top anchor point when I get up there. Once I've got a good top anchor I get one of the boys on the ground to untie the basal anchor I also coil the dead end of the rope if it's a all day job just keeps it from getting dragged all over the worksite with the brush and it's easier for the groundies if they're not having to untangle it.

Perhaps a krab in the eye of the butterfly?

This is the way I've been doing it before I got the pinto pulley. Just make sure the gate of the carabiner is away from the trunk to eliminate that slight chance of it opening itself if in doubt chuck another one in there. Or even a steel mallion with a small spanner attached to it.

Wow I've just brought a pinto pulley purely to have on my srt anchor that's unnerved me a bit now the whole concept of that style of anchor was eliminate rope on rope wear.

(Also I wouldn't climb on that rope anymore weather it would pass loler or not. It would always be on my mind . It's a ball ache to pay for a new one but for the sake of a 100 quid it's not worth hitting the deck over)

Well executed job. Not an easy one to try & coordinate all that rigging either I bet.

Getting it up and running was ok it was trusting and double checking it that took the time.

Well thought out Chris, and ballsy!

Any vid?

No sadly not there was so much going on everyone was busy on the ropes which is a shame really because it came down so smooth.

So did you rope it up, remove the crown and then lower the stem down? That must have been one hell of a weight. Nice

Yeah exactly that. lowered the stem onto chogs. There was a hell of a lot of weight which was why I was nervous but both pines had 2x 18mm lowering ropes, grcs, 2x Impact blocks, some Isc heavy duty pulleys and some hopes and dreams

On a utube vid, a tree like this fell on a house, they built an A frame to support the trunk as they worked on the branches...

 

Now, let me be clear, I only do smallish to medium tree work, an even that's intermittent..

But its what I'd do, thick A frame so it don't fall or twist out of position as you work the upper branches....

once they're out the way, just lop it off at the bottom....

 

I know its easy to say how I'd do it though, but the truth is, I'd of drove to the job, looked and told em to get someone else LOL....

I think 2 grcs's will take it but I'm definitely nervous about it I've been to look at it on 3 different occasions hoping I missed something the first 2 times. If there was anyway I could I'd just cut it at the base and drag it down with the tirfor but sadly that's not an option. I've done trees like this before but with the help of a crane.

took the fence down today there's stuff like water pumps a pond and other general fun stuff underneath. My plan was grcs in each of the pines nibble away at the euc take as much weight out of it as possible then try and lower the trunk down the path (drift rigging it).

I've got this eucalyptus to do. It all has to lowered due to targets can't the cranes anywhere near it but I do have 2 grcs's. I have a plan and am pretty confident about it but I suppose I'm just seeking some reassurance or find out if anyone would go about differently. Cheers guys

I shortened mine on the second climb. Cut the stitch on one side and just re-tied the knot. If you replace the bridge the new ones don't come with the little red stitch.

Took about 3.5 hours. Started at the top, worked a section all the way to the bottom then came round anticlockwise. The job spec was to reduce it enough to get the sea views from upstairs windows. To be honest it may not be perfect but I was well chuffed with it. most people on this forum have done more years then I've done months and with the amount of users on this fouram i think it's good to get the feedback. You can't improve if you don't know what to improve.