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Posts posted by WFWales
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I finish work with Woodfuel Wales on Wednesday - I'll be setting up a new account in my own name to keep in touch with developments while I am away for 4 months in Costa Rica. Off to see an amazing part of the world and to start living my dream away from an office desk...!
It's been great being a part of Arbtalk - You are a fantastic bunch of informative and entertaining people - Thanks a million....
Ciao
Martin
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That's a rocking chair Man....
Tidy job - have you used fox joints for the legs into the seat...?
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I couldn't agree with what you said A, according to forestry commission linkthe numbers are slightly different:
25%MC~ 14MJ/KG
16%MC~ 15MJ/KG
theory:
Let's say that one log (25% moisture content)weighs 1kg. It will produce 14MJ of heat energy.
If you dry this log until it reaches 16%- it wouldn't weigh 1kg anymore, 90grams of water will be gone (91% of weight left).
15MJ * 91% = 13.65 MJ
So no!- you don't get 50% more heat per same log, in fact- you lose some of the energy.
cheers, Dan
Your point regarding the weight of the same log reducing as its moisture content drops is valid Dan BUT...
..These figures quoted by the FC are theoretical figures based on the chemical composition of wood and not the actual heat that will be produced by burning them using stoves or whatever....
FACT IS you will get a LOT LESS heat out of a log with a higher moisture content - We know this to be true from our own personal experiences. Burning a wet log does not allow the firebox temperature to get high enough to fully burn the gases so we lose energy up the chimney in smoke...
Only burn wood at less than 20% m/c...!!
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Thanks Jonathan
I'll get back in touch with the chap and if he's not got sorted i'll get back in touch
Cheers
Martin
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I've no idea to be honest, it's a bit outside my field, Lime's not a wood I've ever had a use for unfortunately.... Have you tried web searching, Lime blanks for carving seem to come up as a mail order thing....?
Thanks again WW - found these guys who are right close...!
Tidy
Cheers
Martin
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Can anyone recommend a supplier near ponypridd?
The chap also travels up to leomester occasionally and he has seen a sawmill near whitney on wye - do es anyone know its name please?
Cheers...
Hmmm - balanks....
ummmm ...= Welsh for "Blanks" ...!
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Presumably it's Whitney Sawmills...?
Thanks WprcsWuss - I think you are right - it prob is them...
However they have no Lime in at the moment..!
Any other possibilities you can think of...?
Cheers
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Can anyone recommend a supplier near ponypridd?
The chap also travels up to leomester occasionally and he has seen a sawmill near whitney on wye - do es anyone know its name please?
Cheers...
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Some clever sorts are installing boilers and getting the RHI to pay for the heat they produce to dry the logs...Result...!
btw kiln drying does not mean anything at all in terms of quality - it's not a standard - imho it's a gimmick. Moisture content is the only important factor....
however I do think solar kilns - Polytunnels - are a pretty good way to go if you have the space
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How dry was the log. I tried one on Saturday too but it was a bit slow getting going due to only a 25mm hole but my log was quite fresh so was a while before it kept itself going.
The chap on YouTube does say HAS to be dry and he uses a 1.25 '' drill bit.
GOT to be dry - not sure what m/c mine was it had been kicking round the office for quite a while...
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Tried one out on Saturday.
Worked a treat...!
notes:
6" hardwood log took a bit of time to get going - we only used an inch hole - but once it got here it burnt hard for well ove an hour.
We used nails to support the pan one of which collapsed as the burn chamber got close. pan ended up on the floor but no real probs..."
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good looking shed but put down a pallet on the floor to get the air in underneath..
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check out this alternative to a swedish candle
Build a Wood-Burning Rocket Stove Made Entirely From Wood : TreeHugger
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Maybe we should start selling wood by energy content....
...such that you offer the customer either a fixed amount of MegaJoules and a variable volume of wood or a fixed volume of wood (probably much, much easier!) but a proportionately cheaper price, based on how much energy they're actually buying per cube/builders bag, etc...
There are a lot of folks out there in the energy market (because that's what we're part of) trying to get best value; if you can make it genuinely simple and understandable (and compare what you're charging for 'energy' to gas/coal/elec/oil) then all the mystery and misinformation will go out of it.
Now this is probably a bad example to give, but when you go to Amsterdam and buy cannabis, the Dutch give you a little of the strong stuff or relatively a lot more of the less strong stuff for the same money. Apparently. Different people buy different stuff according to their tastes but everyone is getting more or less the same bang for their buck and maybe that's the way forward with firewood.
The information regarding energy/unit dry volume is out there - price acccordingly and if you have a website explain this simply on your log page.
You could even factor in the mositure content so that wet wood is cheaper/dry wood at a premium. Turn up with the load and a moisture meter, split a couple of pieces and show them the reading... after all that only the true problem children will find something to complain about!
This is an interesting idea and I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment of providing accurate information to the punters but I fear that it is pretty difficult - can you give me an idea of how many KWh there are in a loose cube of 20% mc softwood (sorry cant do btu's)
I also fear that if we go down this route we will need to start supplying by weight and end up vulnerable to trading standards...
...and then we have the problem of determining moisture content - does your meter measure on a wet or dry basis??
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Absolute nothing wrong with softwood,i shift an absolute heap of the stuff.Good 80 percent customer base always asks for repeats on softwood.
Give me larch or give me death !
Supply dry, price sensible folk will be happy enough.
Wise words Big Fella
and the rest of this thread is very encouraging - glad the professionals are on the case - just gotta get them punters on board....
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Just set my page up Simon Hill Greenwood worker | Facebook I hope you like my work
Lovely carving Simon....
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Buy a cheapo ebay moisture meter if you don't already have one so you can test when it goes under 20%.
Seasoning time there are alot of variables like log size wood store localtion/design etc but 1 yr sounds about right.
good advice Face cord...
split it down to 3 -4 inches - stack it off the ground with a cover over the top and the sides open and let the wind rip thru it and it will dry a treat
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Spoon fest was amazingly spoontastic.
Many sharp tools and talented carvers
Hurrah!!
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Thanks every body - really looking forward to Spoonfest now!
aiming to take these latest spoons along for finishing - https://twitter.com/MartinLeett/status/232785824004055040/photo/1
From top to bottom: Birch Cherry Cherry Ash Birch - I'm aiming to try and complete 2 & 3 (from top) without using any sanding - #1 is my 2nd attempt and I'm using it daily!
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Does anyone have any suggestion for what to use and where to get waterproof labels that can be written on?
Cheers
M
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Cool spoons
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Very nice , how long did it take??
Thanks Ian
About a couple of hours each. I'm just starting out and I don't have an axe yet. I was "designing" it on the fly too!
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Bought a Nick Westermann spoon knife and a litlle mora jobbie at woodfest..
got hold of a bit of cherry and knocked out these. They need oiling - going to have to wait until spoonfest to get hold of some decent linseed...
Happy days ....
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Grate / Great Idea, how much does it cost and what machines does it fit?
Grate indeed - lol
not sure about your q's - have a try and contact john direct - details on the link...
Cheers
M
Adios Amigos
in Firewood forum
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Many thanks to you all
Woodfuel Wales will carry on perfectly well without me - I'm just training up my replacement....!
Cheers