wanstronian

A customer who likes to know what they're buying is only a pain to a dishonest seller. Now I really am going. There's no point staying on a forum where an honest and legitimate desire to learn is met with criticism and abuse. Good luck with those aggression issues.

Oh dear - do you?

Morons. I'll go now - I don't see any point in continuing a thread with ignoramuses who think criticism and abuse is an appropriate response to a plea for help. p.s. Sorry if there are too many 'big words' here for some of you.

Actually I asked specifically for advice - I didn't expect abuse. I'm as easy-going as the next guy, but I don't see why I should be condescended to when I'm only asking for help. Maybe I just have higher standards of philanthropy. I appreciate all the help from the more mature forum members. Apologies for my profanity upthread.

What a productive answer. I obviously didn't read the forum rule where it says that non-pros shouldn't ask questions, so I clearly deserve the abuse I'm getting from people just for asking a couple of sensible questions. Sorry I'm keen to learn stuff, how very immature of me.

No. I didn't. Someone else had already mentioned it was negligible. Happened to spot one when I was there, is all. Where are you getting this crap from? I didn't ask about air gaps. I didn't mention bags at all. Not here, not on the phone to the seller. And what's wrong with that? Why pay for ash and get pine? I don't - I just like to know what I'm buying. Maybe you're different. I never said they didn't - like I said, I just like to know what I'm buying. And you come across as a stereotypical bottom. You know jack sh1t about me yet you feel qualified to pass judgement. It seems a nightmare customer for you is someone who likes to understand what they're buying. Maybe you don't like that because it stops you ripping them off, I dunno. You could start with some of that yourself rather than judging someone on the strength of two flamin' questions. Well, I would. Because I'd damn well know the difference - something I'm trying to learn here, from people less miserable than you. So why don't you just wind your neck in.

Maybe you're in the wrong business then, if that frustrates you so much you feel compelled to have a pop at a complete stranger asking a reasonable question. Nobody forced you to post. Is that my fault? I'm just after a fair deal, not a free ride. Well, I asked two questions. One was about the amount of wood being offered, and the other was how to make sure it's what it's being sold as. Can't see how that's 'overboard.' I take it you would be happy to pay for a pint of Guinness and receive half a pint of weak lager? No - because you can tell the difference and know whether it's a rip.

Thanks to all of you who have been open-minded and thoughtful enough to respond to my questions constructively. It's very much appreciated.

I'm not paranoid, I'm just trying to make sure I get VFM. It was a reasonable question. If it's a problem for you, don't bother to post. All very well saying don't buy off that supplier again, I haven't got the spare cash to get it wrong. I didn't realise that this forum was for the exclusive use of weathered woodcutters and hardened professionals. I was under the (obviously mistaken) impression that it was a good place to come for advice and to learn.

What's that supposed to mean?

Hi all, I'm getting some wood delivered, the seller says it's ash. Is there an easy way to identify logs as ash? Thanks

Thanks for all the responses - on balance it sounds like a good deal. I'll give him a call back and make sure it's definitely ash (by the way, is there an easy way to tell whether split wood is ash or not?) and well-seasoned. There's always gaps in a cube, whether it's in a bag or a pickup, so that doesn't bother me. Wheel arches aren't that intrusive either - I spotted a Navarra in Asda car park and had a gander. Cheers

Fifty quid for 'mostly ash.' Been looking at the spec of the Navara, the load area is 2.36 metres on a double cab. Height would have to be over 16" to get close to a cube. Doesn't sound like a great deal, does it?

Hi, Just been on to a chap about some firewood, he's got a Nissan Navara, he reckons a level load is about a cube. Is that about right?

Obviously I misunderstood him then! I thought he meant he bought it in ready to sell on. But if they'll split it themselves, you could reduce the price by the cost of running your splitter? That seems fair, but of course it removes your opportunity for profit on that activity. Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticising - I'd do the same as you! Business is business and profit's profit! I guess it's because they can see trees whereas they can't see vast lakes of gas or seams of coal everywhere! They don't understand what needs to happen to get it from in the ground to in their log store. I do, in basic terms, but I'm not so much aware of the cost or level of effort... although this forum's been educating me!