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A de3cent TI camera is going to set you back 12k + , then the training. I have just sent 2x cad technicans on a course costing the biz £850, thats reasonable, i was quoted about 1k per person for the trai9ning for thermal imaging, in my book thatb is quite a bit of money and like i said in aprevious post is there really the money and opportuity out there to recoup these costs

Every item??

 

Attached .pdf is a decay detection list from “Wood and Tree Fungi: Biology, Damage, Protection and Use.” by Schmidt 2006 found in “Diagnosis and prognosis of the development of wood decay in urban trees” by Schwarze 2008.

 

How did you find the gamma ray computer tomography? Or the sniffer dogs?

 

I got the sniffer dogs in when doing some survey work in Keswick, the problem was there was a couple of nice looking bitch's near by and thats all the dog was interested in.

It worries me a bit that folk say " a couple of mins with tree officer and a tap here and there...." This is not a decent management process and will be criticised for its laxidasical expression....I very much hope the reality is somewhat different.....!

This wasnt well worded i agree...

The problem is with all these decay detection methods is the finance involved, trees are not classed as a priority by the general public and even in LA's trees are always low down the pecking order when it comes to handing out budgets.

I do like the look and idea of the Thermal Imaging But and its a very big BUT, the cost of equipment and training means that inspection prices are high and will never compete with a VTA and GIS prices so it may ultimatly fail as a system due to costs, even more so at the moment when budjets are being set.

We often suggest trees for further investigation by the picus etc, the take up on these recommendations when they find out the price is below 5%.

" Chris, why would i pay that for further investigation when i can just remove it now for the same price...."

I hate to be the one to say it as i love trees and wish to save as many as i can from uneccesary removal but trees are way way down the pecking order in the domestic, GVT and commercial sectors. The majority of the time the cheapest route will always be taken.

We carry out tree surveys of 10,000 + trees for a number of charitys, LA's and comersial clients, everyone has asked us to cut down survey costs to a minimum, even if this means missing out huge areas.

Not so easy to tap above 7ft or the rootplate below soil level. Takes quite a bit of time to do carefully even Mike 'the tree tapper' Ellison spotted that advantage

Are you going to tell me about the advantages of thermal imaging now ?

Actually it is extremely easy to tap above 7ft, i like to use Arborist methods (Rope & Harness). I have used decay detection above ground level, the dificulties and constraints make it in most cases financially viable. The only time it is useful is for say using a picus to determine the extents of a cavity for the relocation of a section of tree that may have bats in it.

Problem for our biz is Steve if i reccomend a picus etc at say £350+ and cant guarantee that the results will allow the tree to be felled i look like a numpty, whereas i can meet a tree officer on site for 2 mins give it a few taps with a hammer and chat proving that it needs to be removed for a tenth of the price.

might be true, doesnt look as good on a report as a nice thermal print out though eh

Problem is more tree officers are finding out about the ease to misinturpret these images and the short fallings of the machines.

I have used every item out there and nothing comes close to a nylon hammer, and an experienced ear.

Arbtalk, Shouldnt you be working.

One for the4 wives - Not that pis**ng Arbtalk again

Is that a transit engined model?

If you rag it it does use the juice but be sensible and its fantastic, the 35mpg is on the motorway sitting at 70ish.

everybody has their own taste and wants but personally i wouldnt touch a navara the reliability is not very good. know of a 07 reg one and the troubles with it have been unbelievable! rear diff packed up, the axle seals gave way in the hubs and gave the driver a scare cos brakes was non exisent! gearbox has been rebuilt and mpg is not good either! i know this is one example but have heard other similar tales cropping up in converstion. i had a hilux and that was a cracking vehicle brill lock and went well even though was a 100hp engine had no complaints. the ride was very good too. the father in law has just got a new isuzu rodeo and is oven the moon with it, regulary gets 30mpg towing with it and has got up to 38mpg on a good long run! got a l200 on the estate where i work and needless to say it wont be another one when comes to replacing it. just my 2p

I can back all that up, Navara = Headache and an expensive one at that

Sorry forgot to state i do want a crewcab, The MPG thing is my main concern, I know im gonna get no where near the 47 my mondeo does but over 30 on a regular basis would be nice

We get 35-36mpg out of defender 90

Do we have any bi-lingual people on here ?

Bad news that, i would agree with the get the police involved thoughts, a dog wont help you as they will prob just kill it as they sound like real scum bags. I used to hate hearing those bangs and rattlings at night, with all the thefts on here recently a am really glad i sold all the contracting side of the biz.

|Well done to everyone for getting over the 2k mark. Fandtastic considering the financial climate, everyone should be well chuffed

I like the blaze and also yale hv.

They are modular rims.

Sorry mate that was a google special!!

 

In about 36 pages of brokendown Landrover search that was the only picture to show a good breakdown!!!!!!!!!!!confused1:

 

 

here is my old disco which is now owned and dented by a fellow arbtalker

 

little competition!!

first one to tell me what the 4x4 is in the back gorund?

and a bonus point what year it is!!!?

A 94 shogun

Some great pics

That was uncalled for and proper bitchy. I dont have time for a proper rant cos I have to go work and I,ve just got enough time to take out my rollers and have a little backcomb.

lol

To busy polishing the chrome and wondering what to do in thier spare time now they don`t own a Landie and have to fix it

All the jap jeep drivers are to busy pursuing there second careers as hair dressers.

im in , both hands in the air.

i wil do when i can sort out my comp problems

Lets see them then...

I love landrovers , but if you havent got at least 7k to spend i wouldnt bother unless you want to spend £300 per month on maintenance etc

Gave it bash about twelve year ago.

 

Four of us descended on Buxton for a long weekend, can't remember the club or owt.

We stayed in a massive old rectory that the diminuative wiry yorky trainer was living in.

He had two ginormous great danes.

 

Like Bob said, these things are totaly at the whim of the weather gods, we only got a couple of flights in.

Great laugh had by all though.

 

 

Excuse the photos, they're pre dig.

 

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I would have thought peter jones would have just gone for a flight in his private jet drinking champers ..