huskywilson

i have 2 tsumura lights and a solid and a 8 sugi light bars ,superb , tough as hell and real high quality ,will outlast most bars by 4 times probably , the steel is exact same properties and rockwell hardness on rails as each other  but made in seperate factories not a conglomeration company  but the replacable  noses are different , the sugi is similar to oregon tips facing in towards the saw but the tsumura faces out , sugi bars have 5 rivets on the roller nose bearing and tsumura has 4  and some has 5 ,so dunno really , but anyhoo i love them both 

2x242 xpg          575xp

2x254xp             2x576xp

262xp                 572xpg 

266xp                 385xp

2X61                    390xp

346xpg NE          395xp

357xp                 makita 7900

372xp                 

372xtorq

550xp

562xp

the VI is always better , as it doesnt cause wear so much , its like WW2  aero engines that used castor oil , the VI was so high if it overheated it made a varnish effect to stop alloy transfer  on them , i take apart folks  saws/ strimmers etc  to repair or tidy up and the pistons are usually dry once the petrol evaporates , i took  apart my saws occasionally and the whole skits and crank is covered in the good oil . if i put a drop of xp oil on a table it spreads fast , the ipone  motul or bel ray takes ages to move at room temp  same as if i put a drop on finger and thumb and slowly spread it  stays tacky , XP oil immediately separates  . my opinion anyway , i have  saws and never had wear or failure  issues 

i dont use aspen in my old saws as i have not replaced the fuel lines and carb rubbers etc very much  , but i have used  Aspen 4 in my  newer  550 and 562  and run them at 40:1  with  Ipone  racing  full synthetic ester based oil which has  about  highest VI at 100deg c  16.1 mm/s measurement  with other synthetic oils  motul 800  which i use too is the highest at 19 ,husqvarna xp is  7.5 !, stihl  is 7.5 !

23 hours ago, Toad said:

Put another tank of fuel through it today, still seems to be going well. Thinned the chain oil out a little and the tank seems to be nearly empty at the same time it ran out of fuel, which hopefully indicates it isn't too far off oiling correctly.

 

Bit concerned about fine sawdust getting past the air filter, the inside of the carb elbow is quite gritty despite putting a decent bit of grease around the filter. An oem filter doesn't seem to fit any better so I'll try an oem elbow which will come from a parts saw I just bought. Also want to replace the clutch bearing soon, just doesn't feel quite right.

 

Going to do a bit more work with it tomorrow. Think I might adjust the carb a bit, and push the revs up to 12k rpm or so. Might put the 24" bar on too depending on progress.

yeah  my huztl one did get a tiny fines on the intake so applied thick grease on the filter and the intake  and was still a tiny bit after a few cuts , so then  as on previous post i did much better mods hightop cover, hightop, filter bigger carb and x torq  filter intake and 385 xp intake manifold , 

still not had a a chance yet for more cutting yet  , but did another wee mod too i fitted a  OEM wrap handle to my 372 x torq and as the Hutztl one was a bit off line with the vibe spring  had to lengthen  the hole a bit and space out a couple of washers  on the huztl one when assembling the saw  , so hmm oh well i,l fit on the OEM handle from the 372 and fitted real good , all lined up easy ? actually is a bit thicker and has better plastic on the handle  

i do use it sometimes on the newer saws as on older ones it can eventually suck out the old fuel from the lines and then can be leaks , but will plan to replace the old saws with new lines etc , i used the premix aspen but now  buy the  4 stroke ones and add in the Ipone  samouri racing full ester oil  strawberry smell at 40:1  its used on F1 GP 2 stroke race bikes and motocross bikes which get a lot of load and abuse , its  about the highest VI oil  at 100deg C to be used on 2 strokes  so the lubricity is superb , pulled apart a saw recently and the oil is everywhere and is real tacky, obviously after the fuel  has evaporated after use , i took apart another saw a guy gave to me for  a check and a couple of defects and he was using 2 stroke oil  which was a red colour at 50:1 and the difference is mental ,its like comparing milk to cream lol  

i usually use a file but get some damage with chains with metal  in wood or stones or sand in trees  low to ground so i got a ex forestry commission one from a roup and it a 533 ax  reversible motor from the 1990's , needed a bit of fettling but its great , but each to their  own really , depends on how much use the chains get , but mainly due to damage i use the oregon 533  and a file in use 

 yes its posted on hutzl farmertec builders  facebook  too ,i,ll be hopefully using it soon on a big elm trunk  only used it on a few cuts on a 20 inch elm and then a  20inch pine tree and then a lot of pine firewood logs  and then  filmed a birch a few days ago before the better filter supplied , but the file is too big to upload to here 7mb is the limit , its a 48 second vid and is hd and is 240mb 

Some more mods done , OEM  high top cover , OEM hd filter and 372 xtorq hd filter intake with the divider removed , should have better flow and  carb limiters  removed as H setting better flow at high end set at 13000 4 stroking , did have it set at 13300 and was fine but set it rich for more break in 

will do  another mod , the airfilter is real tight under lowtop cover so might restrict airflow so ordered high top cover , felt HD big airfilter and HD Xtorq intake so much better flow ,the huztl filter is a tad loose so apply real  thick grease to stop fines getting in so better lifespan with the HD setup , 

Been a bit of a delay but mods done to the Huztl 372 kit build, as before it has the 52mm BB kit on it , base gasket delete with 1184 used ,  woods ported  and the side entry to transfer have been raised flush with cyl base to improve flow , 272 windowed piston single ring is 40 thou  taller, so 40 thou off the top to 8mm in from the side  to assist with transfer timing , had the open huztl  muffler and huztl carb , it run real good with a 20 inch bar full chisel oregon chain 4 tanks of fuel through it  still runs good ., the brake didnt seem to be real solid as it did lock but with a real pull on throttle it would spin the chain but not real fast , continued on to see if it bedded in, but was still the same so got a OEM one so was a bit shorter , and fitted easily and is rock solid now , 

so other mods done for fun  ? , open 385 xp muffler with bigger exit (its loud)  385 xp intake boot, 385 throttle cable bracket to sort the position relating to the throttle plate angles , walbro RWJ4B from 372xtorq so is biggest venturi on that series of saws then the 372 x torq air filter intake which is a bit less round  as the RWJ4 carb is bigger so it would foul the covers , if the 385 intake horn was used as its bigger so the xtorq fitted well and no fouling , then divider  plate cut out , carb  limiters removed for more fuel on high side.  cyl cover had to be  modded a bit as the 385 boot is a bit  bigger compared to 372  so was fouling the cover so material removed for clearance , but not much , 385 boot is internally bigger than  372 by nearly  2mm so a  taper ground out on the cyl  intake to match up with intake boot  the huztly choke lever fits fine but a tad longer but no issue , the 372 xtorq blue one actually fits better as it had a little kink on it  but the grey huztl one is fine and smooth and fits good anyway 

 all assembled  and fired up after a few pulls , warmed up and did adjustments and tached to 13000  with high jet 4 stroking for more bedding in ,the throttle response is mental compared to the huztl  carb , going to be a ripper for sure , how long it lasts , who knows ? 

i got one for nearly free as a guy didnt use it much now has a HD filter kit and modded the exhaust and has inner dogs on it now too   i would prefer a red one but mine is green ? it pulls real hard , even a 28inch bar through a big elm was easy and has a whine like a turbo lol 

i was thinking  about one years ago but got an  oregon ex forestry commision one which has the reversible motor so no rolling of the cutters , not that its a big issue really but got it for £50 

562 is a great saw , i love mine , most  used saw i use in the mid range , will even run a 28 as it has a bigger oiler than the 560 which is a small mount bar 

that was a nice post there , most of similar  with my build , the muffler on mine was lined up well and the support plate was a tiny bit away , maybe 1mm most , so just tightened it down anyway , the top cover was fine on mine , the bolts dropped in and screwed in easy compared to yours , but as you said a bit bigger hole will line up , the sheared flywheel will be common i think as its just a wee nub in it , i torqued mine to 26 lb ft which is a lot in a fine thread , i almost suspected the thread to strip but so far so good   if yours  does it again maybe get a small file and slowly file a slot in the flywheel  as the crank has a slot and a woodruff key  so will be better probablly . i,ll be running mine  again soon  when i get a bigger carb  and intake boot  from a 385 xp but as the carb is bigger it takes up space so then needs air filter intake from a 372 x torq which is wider but not round so fits in so  will be a ripper ? 

thanks again, i,m looking forward to the 372 ripper ? 

Ok thanks for the pics , that would be a big carb on that K saw have not heard anyone use that carb on the old 372 huskys so that maybe the issue it seems to have a brass nipple  on the face , the others dont so not sure what the reason is as it has a external  pulse line on the side also so not sure what the brass nipple does   , tillitson 296A is simplest to refit to mod the 372 , also another possible is the 372 x torque carb is the walbro RWJ-4 as its 19mm also  but need a bit of altering with other parts  along with the tilitson 296a  needs the throttle bracket and 385 intake boot and the x torq air fiter holder , thanks for your searching  maybe you will find one ?

forgot to mention , those carbs have the impulse line  nipple on the top of the carbs  and are actually structurally bigger than most carbs around the 60cc + bigger saws , so will be the easier ones  to find  compared to  the lots of them in the buckets ? 

first pic is the tilitson 296 second  one is walbro 

thanks SpannerBeast , tillotson HS296A is the best one on those 385xp and 390xp  and the 299A which is less common but similar , the other possible is the Walbro WJ116 which seemed to have some issues but any of those will be probably cleaned and new kits in them by me  ,however many there is of those 3  you have  is good for me .thanks for your reply  

dunno why but the pics are not in the order i uploaded them and another one the same , doesnt matter 

good start , another thing i forgot to mention was i dont have the tools so did what  you did on flywheel side but i put the crank in the freezer and it pulled in very easily  and then  use the PTO side caae half and pulled it it in real slow with the bolts  but was not stiff atall and no big creaks  just a tweek on each bolt , the crank was still cold and put the case in oven to about 150  so it was   easy to do , so wear a  winter glove to hold it ?

Sorry the pics are a bit out of focus when i uploaded them 

got a nice discount from Rob D at chainsawbars UK , got 2  sugi solid sbars for good price for my D095 mount saws  

checked the  echo / sugi dimensions specs and they actually wont fit the D009 mount huskies ,  but they all do now ?and got a 5 kit echo set and another 24 inch sugi 

little bit of modding ,got my die grinder out with carbide burrs  had to widen the slot by 0.7mm and do a slight grind  to the oiler to line up with the husky saws  as the oiler hole is 3mm further away but would still have oil but covers half the hole so did it anyway , tried  all bars on most of my D009 mount saws to check slot lengths and oilers , did have to lengthen a couple a bit as the chain dl was maybe one too long  or one short on echo saws compared to husky ones so was near at end of slot as the echo slots are a fair bit shorter than D009 slots  but would still work with some stretch from use , but lengthened them about 10mm total  there abouts on either end for some saws so seems to fit all saws now  so all a bit of fun, love my sugi bars , have another 8 of them  all from 15 inch to a 30 inch  before this deal  lol  , no oil pissing out from the barmount which is good , all spraying from the nose on revving up  ?

yeah i never stripped a 372 before so forgot about the sleeve , did it 3 months ago and pottered with a couple of other huskys so forgot about that part ?

yeah  FOOK sake i was just about to remember that , you beat me , its  the bush , but mine did have black  seals i think