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About Paul73

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  • Birthday 15/08/1973

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    Primitive technology, deer stalking, shooting
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    Tree surgeon and arboriculturist
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  1. Hi Guys, I am looking to buy a new truck and get a good arb conversion. Quality and lonegvity is important. Who would you recommend? I am in North Wiltsire, so its quite central southwest and the midlands are easier to reach than the far west. Thanks
  2. Thanks Timberonabike. I don't know any timber lorry drivers. Where is a good place to look for one please? Are there any on here?
  3. If I am right Jon, that table is based on mid diameter, so I would need to fell an average looking one to measure mid diamter or climb up it. If I am right they don't count branch wood in the timber calculations, so you need to get to the top of the clear stem height when calculating height. Probably I need more data! the forest mensutation book has a chart that needs stand basal per hectare area for Poplar (unless I have looked at it wrong).
  4. Hi Guys, I am looking to put in a loading area at a woodland gate before taking down some trees. I am thinking to make it part of the woodland management plan. The woodland is small -9 acres. I have got an agreement to make a management plan with Rural Payments. I want to take down about 4 acres of Christmas trees and Thuja -all a bit overstood. I am in North Wiltshire. (Any adivce on who to sell it to would be greatly welcomed too!) I am wondering what you would consider to be minimum dimensions for a workable loading area that people are going to want to come and collect from -presumably with an artic? The road is a B road, so I will need planning permission, so I need to make a sensible application. The road is 5.5 metres wide. I am a little bit constrained by a telegraph post on one side of the gate (set back 2 metres from the road, so 7.5 metres from the other side) and the local lady of the manor's land starting close to the other side of the gate (11 metres from the telegraph pole). The gate is currently 5 metres set back form the road but I can move it and widen it. Can I make it fit? How wide would you make the final gate? How long and wide would you reccomend I make the loading area? If I cannot get an artic in, what is the biggest vehicle I can get in and is it practical? I know that is quite a lot of questions. Thanks for your advice.
  5. Thanks for the idea about prunig to avoid the need for a licence Dumper. This might be tricky in this particular setting -for one thing a lot of tree top would have to clear a lot of closely packed lower branches right next to a big road but it is an interesting idea. Having given notice to fell, does that allow one to prune or is notice to fell only going to give no objection to felling not no objection to pruning? Does anyone know a clear answer to this|? I am not too clear how to calculate amentity tree volumes -they do grow differently from forestry plantation trees don't they -generally more branch and less high trunk. There are 24 poplars generally over 30 metres tall with average diameters of about 550 mill, there are 20 Leylands probably a shade under 20 metres tall on average with diameters that average around 500 mill. There must be 1.5 cubic metres per poplar and a Leyland trunk must have at least 1 cubic metre per trunk? anyone who is good at calculating volumes is welcome to improve on my estimates but there must be more than 40 cubic metres and I would hope less than 80. Thanks for your advice gents. At least I will be able to come back to the clients with some ideas.
  6. Thank you Jon for your input. It certainly sounds like a mess and I can see why the two entities want to keep each other happy without having to change their rules. I am still not sure what to do. My biggest concern is foisting a lot of replanting conditions on my clients or changing the land classification. I am imagining it could affect the value of the land. Urban greenfield sites are valuable as assets even if you do not plan to develop them, urban woods are just holes in the pocket. I don't really know enough about forestry to know if I will have any chance of gettong a license to "deforest" the "hedge" if I apply for it and I can tell that the FC are not much intereted in me when I call them. Arb is not forestry and when we do woodlands, it is usually liability issues with roads, or improving woodland held for amenity or sporting purposes. Timber crops are about the last thing on our list. They are just not interested in us. LPAs usually view us as poachers to their gamekeepers and it can be hard to get them to work with us collaboratively to solve long term problems when they are mostly worried about having to deal with an angry entitled electorate ringing them up and complaining when we actually do something that makes a change.
  7. Yeah, its not a maintained hedge. So it will not be treatable a s a hedge, its really a double screen. It is a very windy spot for some reason -the way the hills work I think. We have had problems at the other (lower) end of the field with 90+ foot leylands collapsing over a footpath. When we took some broken and damaged ones down, others soon followed when they lacked group shelter. I was genuinely surprised and I have been in a business a while and thought I was careful about aerodynamics. Wind is an issue here. Someone planted these trees as a double row to stop wind, not as a wood. They have then grown out over a main A road just where it narrows between walls. (The Leylands are all one sided, leaning over the road, the Poplars are all grown somewhat lions tailed to avoid the Leylands). They are rather co-dependent. They are just starting to look scary. I would say they are not imminent (one small branch failure last year), so I don't think we can do the imminent danger exemption but with a group this size over that road, you need to plan ahead I think not fire fight. It might be possible to safely remove the trees together -each Leyland with its accompanying Poplar, one or two of each at quarter. I do feel for the owners.
  8. Thanks Dan. Thanks Julian. I agree, its a bit iffy. I am a bit wary to go diving in and upsetting the LPA but I am also keen to not get walked over by officials overestretching their legal powers, especially if it gets the owners tangled up in being officially woodland owners when they thought they had a scrubby field with a huge hedge. Hearing the opinions and experiences of others on here some who are more experienced than me, seems a good first step. I am very grateful for the paragraphs to cite. Thanks gents. I have in the past found it a bit frustrtating to find the FC and the LPA being two such diffrent entities who are sometimes wary of stepping on each others' toes. It means that sometimes one will not jump till the other has and you get passed back and forth. Trees in fields (not copses and small strips of wood) really should not be the FC's business I feel.
  9. So it gets stranger. What Dan found says no need for section 211 if you have a felling license. What Paul found says the FC notify the LPA and then you have to do it again yourself afterwards! Dan where did you paste that quote in from please? It looks like maybe there are contradictions in government publications?
  10. Thanks guys. I think 40 cubic metres will go a long way on this job, maybe more than half way even but it won't cover it. At the end of it they will not be able to make a TPO stick on half an unmaintained double hedge if they couldn't make it stick on a whole one, so I would think another section 211 would finish the job. It would be a nice tidy little quarterly exercise to take down a few trees. My experience of the FC from being a woodland owner is that they really, really love forms and they take a very long time to reply at the moment because a lot of them are on furlough. I also notice how land changes its designation on the government magic map when you get them involved and this may have knock on effects. I would sooner keep it simple for eveyone's sake. I just can't seem to get a straight answer from the tree officer though as to whether or not my section 211 "went through". Can a council unilaterally back out of a section 211 that is registered as valid? I didn't think it was possible. Good point Dan about the felling license trumping the conservation area. So it looks like the council's letter is wrong there to start, the fellig license cannot be a pre-requisite to the section 211 as once you have a felling license you don't need a section 211. I am in England Julian. I had better try to find out how to update my profile. Arb talk is a great resource. I don't come here as often as I probably should.
  11. Hi guys, After 20 years of submitting sections 211s this is a bit of a new one on me. To cut a long story short the notification was registered as valid. Nothing was heard for six weeks, then the LPA has belatedly issued me with a letter that that has a file name "non determination letter". The letter is dated within the six week period and says "This letter is to advise you that an assessment of your proposals has determined that a felling licence from the Forestry Commission is necessary. A felling licence application should be determined prior to the submission of a S211 notice" This is new to me. I thought that they were separate things. The LPA decides whether or not to place a TPO, the owner of the trees can decide whether to fell 5 cubic metres or less a quarter or apply for a felling license. Its like you need a permit to disturb badgers, you need to wait till birds stop nesting and you need the owner's permission to fell a tree but these things have nothing to do with the validity of a section 211 or the council's inability to do anything if they have not placed a TPO by the end of 6 weeks. Does anybody know if a felling license is a prerequiste for a section 211 or just a prerequisite for felling more than 5 cubic metres a quarter? Can a notification registered as valid be legally "non determined?" without "no objection" by default being the outcome? I am wondering if the LPA just hates the idea of letting me fell the trees, knows a TPO on a huge double screen of hybrid poplars and leylands at maturity would be ridiculous and so is hiding behind the FC hoping that, in order to get a felling license, a field of scrub ideal for infill development (which at present is not actually mooted but which would no doubt come to mind to some owner at some point) will end up getting a woodland classification? I would be very grateful of your thoughts guys. Thanks Paul
  12. Thanks guys. This is just what I was looking for. So just to make sure I understand please, Riggerbear, when you say the top anchor is "a sling choked on itself" does that mean put the sling round the stem at least a couple of times and then put one end through the other in a sort of "giant Klemheist knot" before back to backing two carabiners on the loop that is left free? I am presuming that both the rescued and the rescuer set up similar top anchors and both stay on all throughout the rescue and that no one is worried about anchors having to be retrievable from the ground. As to the climbing up the pole are you saying that they could climb with a flip line and their normal climbing system clipped round the trunk as a back up -the running bowline choker and prussic to the bridge or the crossing of the climbing line may be a good idea on a scary stem but they are not obligatory? Cheers, Paul
  13. Long ago when I was a gardener my employer sent me on a climbing course so I could do their trees. Spikes were not part of CS 38 in those days and I had never been on the internet at the time so when I needed spikes I just bought a pair, had a go and figured out how to use them. Fast forward a long way and I have a successful tree surgery business and I need to prepare some guys for the CS38 quiz. While I must be getting close to having spent 10,000 hours on spikes without even a minor scare, I also could, for all I know, have some bad habits that might not go down well on an NPTC quiz. So guys I would be really glad to know what is current best practise for a candidate for this test. Ideally if you are an NPTC assessor it would be great to hear from you but anyone who has taken the test recently or who teaches it would be good to talk to too. In particular I am interested to know what is best practise for building top anchors in the rescues and what is best practise in for a candidate to protect himself on the way up (how best to back up the flip line so it is not your only security). A link to diagrams would be great but also just an explanation of what methods of anchoring and protecting oneself are permissible would be very welcome. I don't want to be inadvertently teaching anyone to cut corners. Thanks in advance. Paul
  14. Thank you very much for the information. I am always keen to know up front what to expect so I can plan ahead, rather than end up researching and sourcing things when I have a break down at a busy time. What tool will I need for removing the anvil please? It looks like some sort of pulling tool or does one just screw a bolt in to it and apply leverage to the bolt head? Thanks


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