LoadhandlerUK

Wanting to buy a Gransfors maul

Anyone recommend where to purchase from?

Not just price but service, speed of delivery, decent packaging etc?

Thanks

Curtis

Good point, sorry.

Getting a vehicle that is generally 'off-road' back on to a surface. Mud or snow but not 'bogged in' axle deep

Just checked over our 'winter kit' carried in both vehicles. One tow rope seems to have suffered more than I'm comfortable with so will replace.

What and wherefrom? Online preferable. Not KERR.

To recover passenger vehicles, 4x4 and light trucks only - not HGV

Thanks

Any use?

Arboriculture Team, Parks, Sport and Cemeteries

Town Hall, Stockport. SK1 3XE

[email protected] 0161 217 6111

Trooper is a good idea? We run a Trooper Commercial SWB - 2005 - and have had 3 since giving up on Land Rovers when we had a real bad experience with our last - a TD5

Unfortunately Troopers are not around any more but you still see a few good examples for sale. ITOC - isuzu troopers owners club - is a good website to learn about them.

Also - unless I'm missing something - why aren't you considering a pickup? We also run a sub £5k Hilux which we've had for over a year now. As faultless as a Trooper.

Unpatriotic I know but Landies don't cut it for us anymore - I'd still buy one but only for a runabout. I wish they had more bang for their buck.

If anyone out there is using a Loadhandler pickup truck unloader and has got or can take any reasonable digital pictures of it loaded / loading / in action - we'd be really grateful for them to be emailed into us.

[email protected] - we want to get some British content on the new Loadhandler UK website

We'll donate a complete 2200M system to the Arbtalk Christmas Raffle when Steve announces it plus send a thank you to those who supply pics we can use.

Curtis

Well? How are these working now? I'm thinking of getting one.

Did you buy one Michael?

We've got a 2.0 turbo and have had one from new since 2004.

Goes like stink - mpg not brilliant (you can see fuel gauge moving cruising at 80+) but engine, serviced annually is like a sewing machine. Great equipment, big sunroof, slightly plasticy dash etc; typical jap.

Had no problems off road. Ok not massive clearance but great for fields, tracks and the like.

Last few years on the white stuff it's been very good traction wise on the standard Geolander tyres. Slightly dodgy if you turn the wheel sharply in snow, the car goes straight on but will hill start on packed snow and drive away when your MBs, BMWs and Audis are slip sliding away.

And, best of all, it's an understated shabby chic motor. Town or country it has respect. Class but class-less; for princes or paupers

We'll run ours on for ever....

Cracking pickup.

Make sure you do it - it'll be worth it for the recognition,

Thinking about the tail ramp, a bracket fixed to the sides near the back would not drop timber out of the back but simply onto the ramp, you would then have to drive forward to empty. Bearing in mind I had a guy last week complain when I dropped half a dozen bits of straw on his drive I am not sure that is a good move. Really wants a 3000 fitted to the top of the tail gate then the tailgate fixing so that it only came down to a level horizontal to the floor like a pick up. The strip is long enough for an 8 foot long body but might be a bit short for a 10 foot. Once the autumn cultivations are finished I will see what my brother thinks, he is clever designing and making things like that.

 

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Alycidon,

Thanks for the response. The Dragsheet length on the LH3000 is 4.5m - approx 14.75 feet so should be long enough for a 10' trailer depending on the length of the ramp?

The 3000 is a big chunky beastie, in a big box! When you (and your brother) have a minute, I'll willingly send you one up to have a look at - as you say you just need a simple bracket to retain it onto a tailgate that can be kept temporarily in the horizontal position - and if you like it, keep it and pay for it. If not, pack it back in the box so we can re-sell it and we'll collect it. How's that!

Have had a couple out on 'loan' now and both sold that way. Seeing is believing I guess. Had one last week picked up locally. A contractor had a 'compost' heap of about 15cu m to 'get rid of' - basically years of mowings and veg garden waste. He hired a mini-digger for a day and borrowed a Loadhandler 2200M for his Hilux. He now owns the LH - and as well as getting paid for moving the heap - approx 4 hrs work he said including running back and forth, got a case of beers from where he 'dumped' the compost. Pictures will follow.

Let me know when you're ready and we'll help if we can - but no pressure though. In your own time. With a 'new products' feature in South East Machinery last week sales, from a zero base, are now beginning to take off.

Thanks again

Curtis

Hi Alycidon,

I reckon for a trailer the LH3000 is the one to go for if you don't mind sporting out the extra money - or the LH2200 standard (no M!)

Both give you a bigger sheet and the 3000 gives greater capacity. See the website LoadHandler UK - The Pickup Truck Unloader in the UK Buy a pickup 'Load Handler' online for the exact specs.

Also you will need to make up a rod across the back of the trailer to mount the LH to or a couple of brackets.

What do you think?

Curtis

Ps I'm on a few days holiday in Majorca at the minute - back tomorrow - so will be in the office properly on mon if you wish to discuss it any further

If they army get it, it won't need armour, the next RPG toting combatant will die laughing

p.s. is an ifor williams canopy an option.....

mine arrived today!! cant wait to give it a go tomorrow!

Have you used it yet! - we need those pictures

Seriously, how's it going?

Curtis

Thanks very much to the two Arbtalk members who bought Loadhandlers today.

You know who you are and we value the sales. One is on its way, the other will be despatched tomorrow for Friday delivery.

Happy cranking

We'll also value any photos or vids you are able to send in to [email protected] when you've got 'em installed and running. Interested to get your feedback and to learn what loads you're unloading

Curtis

Hi Steve,

what work to you want? - we're on your doorstep. Have some coppicing / extraction of chestnut and hornbeam to be done later in the year

Curtis

whats it like with wet sand or concrete?

Hello again Robert - I spoke to the States today. It's as we thought - it won't be pretty if the concrete is so wet that it's running all over the shop but they say there's no problem winding out a load if it will stay on the sheet. Use a hose or a brush on a hose for cleaning. They don't see any issues and reckon you could wind it out direct into a barrow in a controlled way.

Also - not concrete I know but found a really interesting video today by a guy in the States who posted it earlier this month. It's crush and run - or crusher run which is like Type 1. - he's also cranking a helluva lot of weight there, I reckon if he's shifting a yard of the stuff then that's about 4000 lbs - about 1800kg - when his one's a 2000 lb variant.

Worth a look YouTube - Pickup bed Loadhandler review

How do you embed this?

Curtis

Hi Curtis,

I imagine this would work better on a double cb than a single cab. Do you get problems with stuff getting caught behind the wheel arches?

Hi Danny Boy,

They work ok on both. When these were developed, most pickups were just pickups and carrying people was secondary. It wasn't until the tax break 'loophole' for carrying people in a commercial vehicle caught on that the double cab rocketed in popularity. So they were originally thought of to unload the long flat bed Chevys and the like.

So crew cab or single they work ok - as you say, you do watch out for 'trapping' stuff behind the arches. If you're unloading large boxes or pallets you'd have to keep that area behind the arches clear. On loose fill this won't matter as you'll just leave it behind and you simply rake out the residue. On loose loads that may 'lock' e.g logs or very dense material just ensure the area behind the arches is relatively clear before you unload. Some folk in the States have made simple plywood right-angle boxes to place behind the arches when filling such material.

We've just had a customer buy one today for hay bales - he delivers smaller quantities 'off the field' to horsey types who can't collect. Stacking them up and securing with a ratchet strap he's winding them off at the delivery end cutting about 15minutes from every delivery he makes. It would be a similar saving with logs and wood chips I would think.

Awaiting the replies from the States guys for the wet sand / concrete and a longer term response to stowing the handle. Should have the answer later.

Meanwhile, sold one today - via Arbtalk - for a hi-cap LR. We'll need a few digital pics of this one in use

Anyone else using one on a LR?

Curtis

.....for a non-tipping vehicle it's a no brainer when compared to shovelling.

The only wear I've suffered is slight fraying of the open end of the sheet but I was told about that at the time of purchase and it isn't a problem: gaffer tape or hemming will sort it.

 

I do keep leaving the handle lying about - I've just got it back after leaving it in Enfield! I wonder if a way could be devised of clipping it to the roller for transit. You may have to go posh for that and have a jointed handle that folds into a single length - more cost though I know.

How about a pocket stitched in to end of the sheet (I'm sort of thinking out loud here)?

 

I think the Loadhandler's time has come in this country; best of luck with it.

 

Jon

Thanks for the good feedback - we value it and will log it and look to see what can be improved. I've had lots of discussions over the last few months with the parent company in the States. They are dead busy so don't always answer emails straightaway but we've built up a good relationship and they're keen to listen and learn from us Brits.

It's a new market for them and things are different, different materials, different names of things and different size trucks. Generally we don't run the F150s and the Dodge Rams hence the 2200M (for 'mid-size') being the most common for us here. Also they know nothing about arb trucks based on larger chassis like Transit and Isuzu. They will take our feedback and in time develop kit based on it.

We think the arb sector is the prime usage market for this. Logs, woodchip for biomass etc. If you haven't got a tipper it's hard work and yes there are alternatives (like tying a tarp to a tree and driving off) but as we get more accountable to HSE and our customers to demonstrate we use good and safe systems and kit, we felt that this gives a simple advantage over lifting or shovelling.

Thanks again Jon, grateful for all this.

email any pictures to [email protected] - they'll be most welcome

Curtis

I like it ! I like it a lot !!

 

I have a toyota hilux 2.8 crew cab import.......will it fit mine..............

 

Looks wicked !!

 

Mark

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the interest. Will fit crew cabs ok too - strap to the tailgate in the usual way, just unroll less Dragsheet. With a shorter load area of course you can 'reach' much more but it's still effective for emptying anything on to the ground or into wheelbarrows or onto a tarp. I hate shovelling off a pickup - single or double cab.

Curtis

whats it like with wet sand or concrete?

Hi Robert,

I won't BS you - I don't know. I'll email the States and hopefully get an answer on Mon or Tues and get back to you.

My guess is though that providing the concrete was firm enough that it didn't run everywhere it should be ok and the dragsheet is tough and washable. Same with the sand - seems possible.

But I'll seek advice and come back

Curtis

Steve's pointed me in the direction of this thread. We're new agents in the Uk for the Loadhandler unloader. See our advert on Arbtalk Arb-Trucks and Landscaping sections or visit the new comprehensive website at LoadHandler UK - The Pickup Truck Unloader in the UK Buy a pickup 'Load Handler' online

All ex-stock for next day delivery and buy online if you wish or ring office hours for a chin-wag.

I'm around and happy to answer any questions on the system on the forum

Curtis

If you want to use any of

please be my guest but you'll need to blur the face of the youth.

But I won't take umbridge at a 'thanks but no thanks'!

 

Jon

Caterham

Jon, thanks we will use that if you don't mind because it gives a good idea of what can be done with the Loadhandler and we have nothing like that on the site. I'll try and get Gary our website guy to blur the face of your helper as you ask.

How long have you had your unit and are you happy with it? Although of course we didn't supply it, we're anxious for feedback and remember us if you need any back-up or spares.

Thanks again

Curtis

Hi Curtis, would that work on an indespension 8x4 trailer? My friend has 1 but its hard to unload and he can not afford a tipper.

Hi Stephen,

Thanks for the enquiry. The new 'standard' model of the LH2200m has a roller width of 5' but can be shortened. The 'dragsheet' as it's called is 42” (107cm) wide so that would be ideal. It's max load capacity is 1000Kg.

So it would work ok but what your mate would need to do is to hash up a way of either having a mock wooden 'tailgate' for the unit to clamp to or to knock up a couple of brackets e.g. from box tube to suspend the unit outboard. It works like a horizontal roller blind so the roller needs to be mounted at the very end of the trailer just as if it had a tailgate in the horizontal position.

If he's ok with d.i.y. many people in the US have them on trailers (see the bottom right hand photo on the gallery page of the website) and we intend to try and develop some bracketry that's universal for trailers. There's a great potential there.

Get him to look at the site and the gallery picture. The trailer in the picture has the sheet much narrower. With a 4' trailer and a 42" wide sheet of the 2200M he would cover all but 3" either side.

With all Loadhandlers the key to successful unloading is to have 'slippability' of the dragsheet over the bed. So if the trailer (or pickup) bed is ropey then a sheet of plywood, plastic, laminate etc will help the sheet slide when loaded. Also any material that's left at the side can be raked out easily.

Hope that helps. The 2200M is £110 + £12.50 delivery + vat

Curtis

Hi Chaps,

A first post after our revolving ad above to let you know we've been appointed the dealer in UK, France etc for the Loadhandler pickup unloader.

We've brought a container load over - mostly the new 2200M model (1 tonne max) which is the one necessary for most of our trucks here, the Hiluxes, Rangers etc - plus a few larger models and the really big 3000 which we're going to try and 'bracketise' for Ifor Williams and similar non-tip trailers and we want to try and develop some brackets for flat beds and other arb trucks for logs and chips.

We've also got a load of spares for all models plus manuals and have also brought over the 'Bedrake' too for cleaning liners but at present we need to work out just what liners they fit . We operate (for the last 60+ years) out of Sevenoaks, Kent and have a full engineering facility there, aiming to despatch kit that has been ordered online from the new Loadhandler UK website LoadHandler UK - The Pickup Truck Unloader in the UK Buy a pickup 'Load Handler' onlineor by telephone or email either the same or next working day by Business Post or DHL.

Also the idea of registering here as a supplier is to provide a technical back-up on the systems for applications, sizing, problems, feedback etc rather than trying to stuff a sales pitch down your throats. Hopefully the website will do that job! We've sold a few already before the website was launched (last Monday) and are desperate for some UK pictures of the system in use for logs, woodchip, mulch etc to replace the US ones we've had to use to get started. We've got the distribution rights for an initial 3 years with an option to renew if it goes well. We're optimistic that it will be a popular bit of kit.

Thanks all

Curtis

Loadhandler UK

Galbraith Bros (PE) Co Ltd

E3 Chaucer Business Park

Sevenoaks

Kent

TN15 6YP 01732 763637