steve collins

13 minutes ago, Stubby said:

I have one of the first . 2011 saw . Still going .

how many hours on this saw??

18 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:

Why will stihl only recommend a 20" bar? When the 440 would pull 25" and the 461 30".
It's probably an emissions thing?

https://www.stihl.co.uk/STIHL-Products/Chainsaws-and-Telescopic-Pole-Pruners/Petrol-chainsaws-for-forestry-work/279876-130/MS-462-C-M-Forestry-Chainsaw.aspx

They dont, from stihl uk

latest version 2017 are good, i use one most days(forestry) and no problems whatsoever and it has over 700hrs on it. 

9 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:

On paper and in the wood are totally different.
The 560 won't handle a 25" bar well unless it's been to spud.
Posted this before, I just like it.
Stock 461 vs 560 spudded
Both 25" bars

 

just on paper they are totally different!!!!!!!!!

as the 461 is 76,5cc and the 560  is 59.8cc  thats over 16cc difference which is HUGE

I would go for a 462, to replace the 560/562/362. Ive had many 560 over the years and they have been great saws in the 60cc category but there is hardly any weight difference between the 462/560 and only difference is its a 70cc saw. Ive owned one for over 6 months now it just gets better and better, plus its been worked hard! once my 560 has had enough i wont get another

has anyone else info that this is true, that the 390 will no longer be available after January as a new saw is on its way??

It is worth using for the health benefits but, i average around 800-1000 liters fuel a year

Pump fuel costs av £1.40 L down here so £1400 a year

Aspen is £3.04(bulk pricing) L  so £3048 a year

£1648 a year difference - to make this work id have to cut at least an extra ton/m3 in the wood a day

I have seen the can and used it. Its  well thought out but wouldn't want to damage it though

3 hours ago, LGP Eddie said:

I think you’ll find it should be all down to Safety and cost should be a secondary consideration?

If they have the room then they’ll crash them over, if they want them taken down in controlled sections without any manual intervention then I can offer something far more effective and safer than any Harvester.

As for cut to length, I wouldn’t look at it as essential to have it exact, plenty of outlets and transport options always available, but it’s near enough if I wanted it to be and I’ve no issues handling after.

 

Harvesters are strong bits of kit, but lifting and handling is where Material Handlers excel.

 

Eddie.

 

The problem is saftey and cost go hand in hand tho, lets hope there are no accidents on this job !!

4 hours ago, Plodalong said:

On 11/11/2018 at 11:14, steve collins said:

we only use skinny wedges and stack them if needed or use winch. There was a memo stating to not use hi lifts but cant remember from who. 

The article on the Fisa website deals with the use of wedges whilst felling ash suffering from dieback - the advice is not to use wedges to knock the tree over. The vibration caused by hit the wedge risks causing dead branches etc to snap off and fall onto the chainsaw operator. The advise winch assisted felling or use of a hydraulic/ratchet type wedge

"It is essential then that operators retreat fully into their escape route when the tree begins to fall and that the use of traditional wedge techniques is minimised."

" If traditional wedges are used then it is preferable to use wedges with a more acute angle than traditional high-lift wedges these are driven into the tree with less force, the thought being that this will create less vibration and will therefore dislodge less deadwood"

cant see anything about winch assisting, the way i read it is they still allow the use of wedges all down to how its interpreted really.

https://www.ukfisa.com/assets/files/alerts/Safety Guidance Note - Felling dead ash - April 2018.pdf

we only use skinny wedges and stack them if needed or use winch. There was a memo stating to not use hi lifts but cant remember from who. 

15 hours ago, drinksloe said:

 

The way i read the article it was the other bloke the objector who was saying fell at  6ft/2m essentially pollarding the trees.

 

 

Yes your right it was the objector who was saying fell at 2m but from what i can gather is that he is also the owner of two of the woodlands so id hope he gets a say in whatever process they choose.

They should just identify the worst trees and come in with a thinning programme which may take out pockets of trees but leave the remaining trees for monitoring/inspection and less chance of windblow, also the retained trees can be identified easy for ongoing works.

Harvesters are an option where they can cut the easier material(cleaner/straighter) but the head/machine does take a hammering, personally its a hand cut and winch job.

Im sure the job has gone out to tender, be interesting to see who won it and how its being completed

29 minutes ago, LGP Eddie said:

Not a job for a Harvester if you need to consider the surrounding trees. I’ve the kit to get such trees down in safety without manual intervention and need little room to do it.

 

Eddie.

I know you have the kit, But can an excavator with a grapple saw cut accurately to length?  or will it go through a bed processor aswell? no different to a harvester or highly skilled handcutters?? imo

As im sure the trees being cut would have to be sold on as firewood.

Its all down cost at the end of the day

Now most likely they will get a harvester in to do the job as there have been words from euroforest saying no hand felling of ash as its safer??

What happens when they get to a rotten tree/ heavy leaner or tree to big for the head??

Have just completed a job this year where 550 plus mature ash were felled on a THINNING PROGRAMME  where the trees are heavily monitored over 5 years due to it being a high public access and has a road along one edge, what they are saying is a clearfell which is just ridiculous.

Now the major problem is that they are saying they "  will only fell them at two metres or six feet, in case there is re-growth that may withstand the disease."

Hands up who wants to fell potentially rotten diseased ash at 2 metres??

Refreshers are needed as there are still  trainers/colleges out there handing out tickets like sweets which is not good for industry!!  All you end up with people who are competent on paper but are absolutely useless all because it looks good that they pass so many which means more business which means more MONEY MONEY!!

a 560/562 is a hard saw to beat in the 60cc saw catergory but will need regular maintenance and spot on fuel mixing or if your a part time user go for the makita/dolmar as they are a solid saw with a simple carb and no electronics

ive got one with over 700 hrs on and no problems at all

2017

Ive seen a few on other online platforms with broken clutch covers,  i believe they have been replaced but a slow turn around, try a 390 clutch cover as that may fit

yes, how much are you after? i can point you in the right direction

a local wood cutter was stung 21!!! times by hornets didn't make it to his truck was luckily found by public and ambulance came

woodlands have been hit hard in the south east, lots of felling has been going on for years and a few sites have been thinned where there are lots of dead standing and seasoned trees!  this is with still healthy trees next to completely dead. One site is so bad a clearfell is likely to happen, another has mature 70 foot plus trees where there is lots of decay in the base making felling difficult. most landowners and agents are on the case where trees have been monitored prior to the works but looks like the ash tree is going to be a rare site soon

still looking for one more person to help out???

462 is just a little heavier than the 560 ive only used it felling oak, chestnut and ash so cant say what it is like in softwoods, runs a 20" fine never had chance to put a 25 on to see how it responds. does seem a bit fragile around the back handle area and the switch is backwards compared to the husky 560.

Bump!!  Still looking for someone??