waz77

What an absolute 🔔 🔚

11 hours ago, AHPP said:

I've driven through Penistone fifty times and always noticed the very smart barn and the logs for sale signs. I don't suppose that's you is it?

No mate, I live up on the moors now, Penistone was getting too overpopulated for me 😂

A few years ago but the materials for this cost around £1500, plus hydraulic pack, I'd been quoted £6500 to have one built the same so did it myself in about 5 days

I've worked for firms who did this and did it myself when I had my own business after giving the guys the option, basically they were paid an amount per day to cover average fuel use, maintenance costs and the cost of a new saw over the average lifespan of a saw, if they looked after their kit, which they tend to do when it's their own, they came out on top money wise and they got to choose their own kit as long as it was fit for purpose. One potential pitfall is who covers the cost if it gets stolen from a secured van if you provide the vehicle 

Bob's retired, maybe that's the problem 🤔

Does he still come on here? I've not been on here for years

Pds1 is the Lantra course, dsc is more recognised in stalking circles although lantra is obviously bigger/better known in land based training circles 

Dsc 1 is definitely worthwhile if you plan to get into stalking, it will give you fairly good knowledge about deer, law etc, and some places will want to see evidence of it to book a stalk, think of it like cs30/31, you don't have to have it to fell a tree, but if you plan on doing it a lot it's definitely a good idea to have it

Yes some feo's try anything in the book to avoid issuing fac's, ours here like to try and make their own rules up as they go along, but as you say it's nowhere in ho guidelines, only the requirement to have good reason, so might insist on proof of a booked stalk or letter of permission from landowner to control deer

9 minutes ago, Gimlet said:

In exceptional circumstances you can apply to Natural England for a strictly time-limited  A16 license to shoot deer at night. They can be granted only where deer pose a serious health and safety risk, are threatening natural heritage or causing catastrophic crop or forestry damage. You have to provide evidence of need and proof that no other means of control has been effective. And then you must submit a full report of deer activity and your actions (even if you haven't taken any) two weeks from the date of issue of the permit using an LR16 report form. 

 

This applies in England and Wales. I assume there is equivalent dispensation available in Scotland and Northern Ireland and that the Scottish government has power over this legislation. 

Essentially, it work only need a change to the existing law to make night shooting permits general or greatly expand their scope. 

Notwithstanding how ecologically illiterate the green movement is,  I'm baffled how the SNP get their politically motivated war against the very existence of native Scottish deer past their Green party coalition partners.

Yes, very difficult to get in England, in Scotland they hand their version out like sweets, you just need to be on SNH fit and Competent register which is a simple email if you have L1&2.

Regarding needing dsc 1&2 to stalk, you don't need either, some lease holders might request it but if you are going out with a guide as a paying guest you will rarely require it. 

1 hour ago, Gimlet said:

Deer control in the UK is in an absolute mess. There has been a feeding frenzy taking place on all sides. Firstly, there are too many people with rifles looking for somewhere to shoot, caused in no small part by organisations like BDS and BASC making easy money by churning out "qualified" stalkers on a production line through their DSC course, most with little experience and nowhere to shoot. Landowners cottoned on to this over-supply and saw stalking leases as a bit of easy money, and often tax free money. Leases became more and more expensive. Those who have ground and can afford it are greedy for more and to pay for their leases they offer over-priced paid stalks to the army of surplus stalkers who have no ground, spawning a pethora of "professional" stalkers who take out paying guests. Except that there's nothing professional about most of them. Very few of them derive their entire income from deer management. They are hobby stalkers essentially sub-letting to pay for their ground and pocket some cash. 

This does nothing for meaningful deer management because most paying stalkers want to shoot bucks and stags, when it's the surplus of juveniles and females that needs culling to control numbers, while dominant males defend territories and compete with rivals, preventing a breeding free-for-all. So the animals that should be getting culled are left untouched and the animals that should be left alive to defend territory are getting shot. 

Now the latest thing is syndicate shooting, which is basically subletting. He who has deepest pockets buys up all the contiguous ground he can and then makes a packet selling places for silly money to desperate FAC holders who need to show some action to keep their tickets. I know of several "pro" stalkers who will have small parcels of ground they don't pay for, but supposedly control the deer for the landowner for free in return for the odd carcass. When really, they are using free ground as a nursery to repopulate their neighbouring ground which they've shot out. They only visit once in a blue moon to show willing but rarely shoot anything and any meat they give to the landowner has probably be shot somewhere else. 

On top of that you have the FC running feral and doing whatever they like. 

The casualty is meaningful deer management and small landowners who don't shoot and are getting eaten out of house and home by a glut of deer pushed over their boundaries. 

It's about to get a lot worse too with FLS deciding not to renew stalking leases in Scotland where a lot of stalkers rely on for their stalking ground, in favour of night shooting with contractors, a step closer for wee kranky to stop recreational shooting altogether 

Yes you could do, most of my meat is what I've shot myself, swap some venison for home reared pork from the neighbour, as said getting a fac at present is a long drawn out process, but you can use an estate rifle until you get your own sorted, there's plenty of places charging around £80-£100 a stalk, you'd usually pay extra for the carcass, an average sized roe around £40, you usually only need dsc if you're taking on a lease of your own although a few might want you to have L1

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Dave Blaikie does forestry winching, bit over kill but I guess it would cover you

This is 2/3rds of it, got another load on the timber trailer, got some ibc crates with beech in too, about 6-8" 3' lengths but not too worried if they don't get done

What diameter. Length.

Photo.

 

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Hi Bob

Mostly 4m lengths some in 2's and a few odds, ave butt end dia around 10" nothing much above 12", I'll get a pic in a bit when I go down to yard.

Looking to hire a processor with or without operator to process around 15t of pole stage oak for own use at yard in Penistone. Tractor and timber crane available on site if any use. Thanks

Has anyone tried musto br2 gear?

This one too

I've got a few, doesn't cause me any bother

Fountains and BTS have it

Where abouts in north Sheffield will you be? Might be able to point you in right direction of somewhere

Does this have to be Loler'd with it not having Rops/Fops?

If being the boss of your own company employing staff etc was the time of your life why aren't you doing it anymore?