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Posts posted by ArbjobsNick
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I've had a pair of phantoms, some
Things I've noticed that may or may not be personal to me, took quite a while to break in to a point where they were comfortable, after 3 months the left boot started leaking enough to make my feet pretty wet after a day walking on wet ground (not submersed), think it may be to do with the bunching / folding of the material at the lowest lace eyelets? Keeping the phantoms for summer to alleviate wear on my airstreams. Did notice the quality and instant comfort of the airstreams compared to the phantoms, but that is to be expected considering that they are Meindls, and basing this opinion on military boots I've had in the past from Meindl.
Thanks for the feedback. Perwanger leather Perwanger is treated to help make it water resistant it may need additional applications of Silicone spray to enhance this ability so you could try this to see if it helps. Of course there are areas in any boot that can allow water penetration eyelets are riveted in to the leather and can allow water ingress and stitched areas that latter is a small issue on the phantoms as the main body is produced from just one leather section. The leather on the Phantoms is also very thick compared to other brands so I'm sorry but they will need some breaking in and this can take time.
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Alongside running Arbjobs I also work for STEIN SAFETY here in the UK. I would like to thank you for all the positive feedback and funny enough the negative feedback too, it is useful to know where we can improve on products. It is nice to hear back from customers directly before things are posted on here.
Sadly you can never please everyone all the time. STEIN PHANTOMS are built for STEIN by Alico a specialist mountaineering and hiking boot company from Italy who have been making boots for quite some time and make some boots for the Royal Marines see this ebay post :
Royal Marines Ski March Boots ALICO New Nordic 75mm Fitting Army Surplus | eBay
There are sadly people in the industry with an axe to grind who use Arbtalk to voice malicious nonsense against a number of brands STEIN included its just a sad fact of life and one I'm sure most users can see through. Any brand can have problems developing or evolving products. STEIN works with a team of Arborists to test and improve our range. OK we don't always get it right first time but show me a company that does, STIHL? PETZL? HAIX? have all had issues with products.
I don't know what some people expect regarding products a genuine manufacturing fault is a genuine failure of a component part. Wear and tear, use and abuse is not covered under warrantee.
Arboriculture has to be one of the toughest industries on boot. Many of us buy the cheapest boots available we don't just walk in them we jam them in to crotches in trees, drag them through briar and brash expose them to all sorts of chemicals and wear them often without any care six days a week and when they show signs of wear we blame the manufacturer. Be fair lads !
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Had Zermatts they were really good moved on to Phantoms just as good same water repellent leather as the Zermatts and cost less money well worth a try.
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They are to railway spec so totally conform to highways. As with any breathable product they do get grubby quickly so washing/cleaning has to be done with care. We get ours from Welcome to Redwood UK for your professional woodchippers. Sorry this link seems to go through to their woodchipper site. It's the same company. I think they used to be Orchard Hill Supplies near Andover. Any problems PM me and I'll get the office to forward details to you.
Just a cautionary note:
These jackets are indeed "High Viz" but if you need them to be certified to EN471 for highways or rail use I would ask to see the certificates or conformance before buying. Having read the label I think they suggest they "comply" rather than are certified too there is a difference. Any distributer or retailers selling them as "fully certified" risk being taken to task by trading standards under the 1995 PPE directive.
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Arb Association Arborist Tree Challenge or 3ATC for short is run by a sub team of voulenteers for arborists of all levels to help promote and advance climbing, promote safe practice and share knowledge with climbers.
The team also run the Student CCC or College Climbing Competitions is only open to student teams but we want to promote the same ethos.
These events are about having a bit of fun and maybe picking up some new ideas that will help you in your daily life as a climber.
If you would like to get involved in these events as a competitor or as a new member of the management team please visit our new website
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Check these out!! I like the look of them, especially the one with the seat!
would like to get one but i bet they aint got european certification:confused1:
If your wanting something durable and CE have a look at these don't let the brand put you off they were built in Europe by the same firm that made the Tree Austria harnesses and come in a much better price. I hear via the grapevine that an attachable seat is also being planned for release this year.
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3ATC/CCC College Climbing Competitions
2 Venues
Southern CCC at Sparsholt College Sponsored by STEIN SAFETY
30 April A.A. Climbing Workshop / Demo Day 2- 5 PM
1st May CCC Competition
Brilliant goody bags for every student entering, Winning team recive a £200 gift voucher to spend of STEIN products and their College win a £1200 gift voucher from STEIN SAFETY to buy product for use at the College.
Northern CCC at Myerscough College Sponsored by GUSTHARTS
14th April A.A. Climbing Workshop / Demo Day 2- 5 PM
15th May CCC Competition
Winning team members and their College both win prizes detailed on the website.
For more information on the events their location who can enter, camping College bars and elegability please go to our new website
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Two OPEN dates so far for 2013
June 1st 2nd Welsh OPEN at the Welsh Wood Festival
June 14th 15th UK OPEN at the AA Arb Show
Competition based on one simple (ish) work climb.
Novice , Expert and Premier levels.
1st Prize's in each level.
For more information and new on line booking system go to www.3atc.com
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Damned good boots these the grey ones got a rave review in The Tree Tools NZ Blog
UK retailers already offering good discounts on these boots too. Tough and durable they have got to be worth a look
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No Steve. With respect... I've read a lot of posts on this forum about , mainly peripheral type Stein branded kit breaking.
I do think they are in danger of 'dropping the ball' because otherwise they are a top brand for the more core equipment.
I did write a post along these lines a while ago, but didn't post it and now I've done an abbreviated version.
I'm saying good kit but the peripherals are letting them down.
Paul I am sure STEIN would like any feedback from the industry good or bad that would help them improve a product. It might be better to get on the phone to them rather than on here.
Do you think the reason your seeing lots of posts on here griping about STEIN is because they are bringing more products to the market than anyone else? Other manufacturers sit on their arse do nothing or just continue to bring out the same old gear year on year. These guys are putting time and money in to new ideas to try and make work a bit easlier. Sure they get it wrong now and again when a product isn't quite up to par but they do try and rectify it where possible. Do they get recognosed for this? NO just a few people on here flipping moaning. axes to grind? Old scores to settle? Mmmm.
Bringing any new idea to market is hard and faults will be found. In this case I am sure the perfect rope retriver could be developed but it would end up expensive. If people think the STEIN one is too light weight with a 45 KG breaking strain buy a damned Sherril one for $43 Dollars + shipping Retreever Telescopic Reach Tool by SherrillTree : SherrillTree Tree Care Equipment
Oh by the way they break too see this thread.
I don't know why STEIN bother trying to help such an ungratefull industry.
Why is so little positive ever posted on here? Every time I come on all I see is moans or bullying from a minority of the members. Don't you see its driving members away ?
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That looks nice but it makes the system a bit gear intensive again and £40 for a duck and another £10 - £15 for the additional crab is gonna hurt the pocket anyone would think you ran a shop of something just kidding mate but sometimes simple is good.
Like Rupes said a simple bit of accessory cord will work fine I kept losing mine and got fed up making a new one from starter cord so thought the cut away would do the bizz although I will probably lose that as well.
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Also I'm sure I've read that it's not a good idea to use spliced end of your rope as the bend directly behind splice can compromise its strength!
I can see how the slice can interfear with the system a bit but I can't see how a good splice would comprimise the strength in the system. Terminated knot would save you having to pay out for any splice and mean you can get the hitch a bit closer to your harness, so get a thumbs up from me on that basis.
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Nick have you tried a revolver instead of using the ring on your bridge it makes adjusting under load a bit easier.
LOL I havent but I can see how any pulley on the bridge would help when adjusting the system. Just like to keep it simple really but good idea Paul.
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Brilliant new trees this year two Cedars one like a ladder the other slightly more open but both fantastic. Novice and Expert climbers will both be lifted in to the crown in a MEWP by some nice people from Access Platforms so no need to wear yourself out getting in to the crown.
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ARBJOBS.com are pleased to once again sponsor the 3ATC UK OPEN at the A.A. Arb Show. Pre booked climbers will get free entry to the Arb Fair worth £8.00 and a STEIN Goody bag worth £59.50.
Prizes sponsored by STEIN Safety will be for EACH category of climber Novice, Expert and Premier and will include:
1st £229 STEIN VEGA HARNESS
2nd £220 STEIN X CLIMBER (Special edition ) "STEALTH" CLIMBERS
3rd £170 STEIN THROW LINE KIT
The Arboricultural Association are also including a sizeable prize pack for each of the winners at this years event. Download your entry form here and return it to us by Wednesday the 13th of June. Please specify if you would like to climb on the Friday or Saturday.
Good luck
Nick
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Good luck NZ. Its good to see local places to advertise popping up, at Arbjobs.com we have so many tree jobs to trawl through from all around the world I know sometimes folk just want to look locally.
Nick
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getting a new harness when I go full-time / can get more days!
Thanks peoples
You might want to look at this new harness the main ring wont go over the two captivating rings that hold the replaceable bridge.
The conecto rings are also available seperately are EN354 rated and may resolve problems on other harnesses.
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Hi Nick, I've got the forms ready for Cirencester, can I pay on the day? Chequebooks seem to be going out of fashion and I'm still waiting on one I ordered four years ago!
Hi Dan
If you can send us the entry form we can book your place by credit card.
Cheers
Nick
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Will spiderjacks be alowed for the student comp? I appreciate not many students will have one?
Thanks Ollie
Hi Ollie
Any climbing system is assessed for its safety by the head judge who has the authority to allow or deline its use in the 3ATC events based on his experiance and the climbers demonstration of the equipments viability for use in the event.
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It was miserable! I popped over the saturday for a few hours, met a few people then left as the little 'un was getting a bit miserable. Highlight of the day was taking Keeley in the helicopter ride for sure!
Keely looked absolutely frozen Steve glad she liked her helicopter ride. Don't blame you for not staying it was so cold and wet. Well dont for all the climbers who did stay for the duration to compete. Brilliant time looking forward to next year.
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I definitely think a shorter cord helps. the pre made e2e kits are 90cm, but i find them too long (similar problems to you, having to set the hitch for it to bite etc). experiment with different lengths!
STEIN have just bought out three eye to eyes at 75 cm read more about them on the fletcher stewart website.
Work well on 13mm tied as either Mitchegan and Schwab hitches. Nice positive lock and short sit back all makes for a nice safe feel. Your line wont tend to self feed through these as eaily as it will with a VT but you have to weigh up which you prefer.
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Grosse Gut Geburtstag Justin.
How long does your PPE last you?
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Posted · Edited by ArbjobsNick
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You got to look at price per wear sometimes it pays to spend a bit more to get longer life but buy two products at £100 they sometimes only last as long as one £200 product so what offered better value ? Neither, they were the same price per wear. I know guys who can destroy PPE in weeks when others in the same product get years out of them. Why ? Enviromental impact hawthorn or chestnut, job role foreman or climber. Everyone seems so quick to blame the product. There are lots of products out there for lots of different jobs as the man says on raiders of the lost ark "choose wisely"