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47 minutes ago, coppice cutter said:

I detest Nicola Sturgeon with a passion which terrifies me.

 

Therefore I ignore her as much as humanly possible, and then some more.

 

Merely pointing out the inaccuracy of you stating that "nearly half" is taken of you when it isn't, it only serves to somewhat discredit an otherwise valid point.

 

 

Nearly half my wage after 43600 41% plus NI averages out in my case at 48-49% that’s near enough half to piss me right off. The money earned before that is basically survival income as far as I’m concerned. Whilst we bicker and point out mathematical  inaccuracies the system continues as it’s designed too do ie keep us toiling away to maintain the status quo. Keep working and trying  and the simple fact is you get closer and closer to half your wage in tax. Where’s the incentive??. 

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1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

Nearly half my wage after 43600 41% plus NI averages out in my case at 48-49% that’s near enough half to piss me right off. The money earned before that is basically survival income as far as I’m concerned. Whilst we bicker and point out mathematical  inaccuracies the system continues as it’s designed too do ie keep us toiling away to maintain the status quo. Keep working and trying  and the simple fact is you get closer and closer to half your wage in tax. Where’s the incentive??.

When I started working basic rate was 33%, there was no minimum wage, and personal allowances were much smaller than now even in real terms.

 

So if you're pissed off now just be thankful you weren't trying to forge a path then.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, coppice cutter said:

When I started working basic rate was 33%, there was no minimum wage, and personal allowances were much smaller than now even in real terms.

 

So if you're pissed off now just be thankful you weren't trying to forge a path then.

 

 

It should be like that now! Far to many pay virtually nothing in tax. Even at £30k a year income tax is only £3,500. 

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Andy, I understand you (and Dave) are lucky enough to have quite a few children, good for you both.

 

Did you pay for their births (all the doctors, midwives etc) privately?

Have they all been educated in private schools from infancy?

Any time they are ill do you pay privately every penny for health care?


Not trying to catch you out, you know where I’m going with this.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Andy, I understand you (and Dave) are lucky enough to have quite a few children, good for you both.

 

Did you pay for their births (all the doctors, midwives etc) privately?

Have they all been educated in private schools from infancy?

Any time they are ill do you pay privately every penny for health care?


Not trying to catch you out, you know where I’m going with this.

 

 

Mick I totally agree with having to put into the pot to get out, I’ve never claimed family allowance or taken any freebies for any of my kids, the ones whom went the uni route have cost me a fortune and are stuck with large student debt themselves. I pay income tax and NI and have done all my life (55 now) 32years in commercial diving game a lot of the time on sched D North Sea taxation so my NI pot is  way off the upper scale. My gripe is the level at which the 41% kicks in up here and the struggle or barriers put in place to keep you toiling. 

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1 minute ago, Johnsond said:

Mick I totally agree with having to put into the pot to get out, I’ve never claimed family allowance or taken any freebies for any of my kids, the ones whom went the uni route have cost me a fortune and are stuck with large student debt themselves. I pay income tax and NI and have done all my life (55 now) 32years in commercial diving game a lot of the time on sched D North Sea taxation so my NI pot is  way off the upper scale. My gripe is the level at which the 41% kicks in up here and the struggle or barriers put in place to keep you toiling. 

Ok, understood. 
The state paid for your childrens education from 5 to 18 though right?

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