Making the news today....

[The avantgardener]

22 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

From the Office for National Statistics -

Net migration continues to add to the population of the UK as an estimated 283,000 more people moved to the UK with an intention to stay 12 months or more than left in the year ending September 2018. Over the year, 627,000 people moved to the UK (immigration) and 345,000 people left the UK (emigration).

 

That net figure of 280k has been similar for over 10 years - how many new doctors do you think are needed each time we import another 200000 people?

 

Over the last 10 years the NHS should have added at least 2000 GPs, just to treat immigrants.

Immigrants are the problem - even if 2000GPs were imported with every 2m new bods - they would be be adding to traffic conjestion, pollution and just making peoples lives worse

How long does it take to become a GP compared with how long it takes to write a resignation letter, this is the reason for for the shortage as explained in the news this morning.

Your post has got to be the biggest pile of horeshit I have ever read on Arbtalk.

[tree-fancier123]

6 minutes ago, The avantgardener said:

Your post has got to be the biggest pile of horeshit I have ever read on Arbtalk.

so you don't see that importing an extra two million people over ten years will increase the strain on the NHS?

the population has been rising markedly, but GP numbers haven't

horeshit - you can't educate pork

[The avantgardener]

1 minute ago, tree-fancier123 said:

so you don't see that importing an extra two million people over ten years will increase the strain on the NHS?

the population has been rising markedly, but GP numbers haven't

horeshit - you can't educate pork

The report this morning had taken the rise in population into account, the numbers leaving the profession where higher than ever before and the numbers coming in where not catching up at an alarming rate, but your OPINION overrides these FACTS, like I say, an easy target for the Brexit brigade.

[tree-fancier123]

2 minutes ago, The avantgardener said:

The report this morning had taken the rise in population into account

or at least you believe it has

[The avantgardener]

16 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

or at least you believe it has

No, just simple maths. Taking into account the population increase, if the GP numbers where not reducing so quickly they would be at an acceptable level.

[eggsarascal]

Anyone got a link to this report?

[tree-fancier123]

'In 2016, well over a quarter (28.2%) of live births in England and Wales were to mothers born outside the UK, the highest level on record.'

 

Brexiteer scum!

[tree-fancier123]

. In 2001 the population of the UK was estimated at 59.1 million, with 4.9 million (8.3%) foreign born. By 2011 the population of the UK had increased by 4.1 million to 63.2 million with the foreign born population at 8 million (12.6%). The population now stands at 65.6 million (mid-2017)

 

So from 2001 to 2017 there was an increase of  ~ 6.5 million people - all those new people clogging up GP surgeries and hospitals - the horror. The ratio  of GPs per 1000 would have become stretched even without recent trends in early retirement etc.

Edited May 8, 2019 by tree-fancier123

[The avantgardener]

7 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

. In 2001 the population of the UK was estimated at 59.1 million, with 4.9 million (8.3%) foreign born. By 2011 the population of the UK had increased by 4.1 million to 63.2 million with the foreign born population at 8 million (12.6%). The population now stands at 65.6 million (mid-2017)

 

So from 2001 to 2017 there was an increase of  ~ 6.5 million people - all those new people clogging up GP surgeries and hospitals - the horror. The ratio  of GPs per 1000 would have become stretched even without recent trends in early retirement etc.

No one is contesting that the population has increased, it has on a global scale.

This report simply stated that due to the recent quick decline in GP numbers and the time it takes to train as a GP, the ratio of GP’s to population at its lowest, why can you not understand this simple report?

Is it because it doesn’t confirm your idea that everything is the fault of Imigration?

 

[eggsarascal]

10 minutes ago, The avantgardener said:

No one is contesting that the population has increased, it has on a global scale.

This report simply stated that due to the recent quick decline in GP numbers and the time it takes to train as a GP, the ratio of GP’s to population at its lowest, why can you not understand this simple report?

Is it because it doesn’t confirm your idea that everything is the fault of Imigration?

 

Please provide a link to the report.