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18 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

In part, to the previous outstanding response and in part to this Mark, purely my take on it but:

 

(a) little point wasting time / energy attempting to counter the misguided, jubilant celebration of the ardent anti Tory contributors who, appear, rather than to recognise that Current difficulties are indicative of the complexities of the situation and would similarly impact upon either of the 2 main parties, instead, choosing to make the circumstances fit a predetermined personal political persuasion whilst the opportunity exists. 

 

(b) Seriously - does anyone think Labour wouldn’t have made an even bigger hash of it? It’s almost like a mirror imagine with Corbyn as a life long anti EU (but strangely attracted to some of the socialist nationalisation concepts), the PLP broadly in favour of ditching Brexit and large swathes of the Labour voting public in favour of Brexit - not to mention a shadow cabinet of chimps, radicals and idiots. 

 

(c) whilst there is little to celebrate in the output of the government to date regarding Brexit, I for 1 am relieved that, as a small consolation, it’s not being administered by Labour. The phrase “careful what you wish for” comes to mind!!

 

(d) Farage has stated that he will consider standing for UKIP leadership again if this farce continues. Maybe therein lies the solution - or Tory MPs jump ship to UKIP so as to galvanise the government into decisive action. 

 

Theres no point trying to counter the misguided jubilation of Tory haters whilst there is nothing tangible to counter it with, better just to let it slide and recognise that whilst not the finest hour for British politics, it would be a whole lot worse under Labour ??

I guess there could also be an (e) too Mark:

 

(e) “cabinet meltdown” - to use a phrase, not so long ago that Corbyn very nearly ripped the heart and soul out of the Labour Party. Casting the memory back (not so far), I’d propose that was a significantly greater ‘crisis’ and yet he’s still there and so are the seemingly irreparable divisions within the party and the electorate... What should we learn from that?

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11 hours ago, spudulike said:

Anyway, 12 kids out of the cave in Thailand, sorry for the diver that died and nothing but admiration for the others that carried on the unenviable task of getting these people out in awful conditions.

Brave people and hats off to them all!

Is the Thai gov. gonna charge the coach with negligence I wonder?

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Is the Thai gov. gonna charge the coach with negligence I wonder?


Personally, I don’t think there is much appetite for that over there. He kept them safe and alive through a tough ordeal after all.
The blame and claim culture that cripples us here in the West (started in the US) hopefully hasn’t infected them over there yet.
I remember a copper over here nearly got prosecuted for wading into a lake trying to save a guy who had drowned. The rest of the emergency services were on the bank set up filling in risk assessments trying to decide whether or not it was safe to go in........
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3 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

I guess there could also be an (e) too Mark:

 

(e) “cabinet meltdown” - to use a phrase, not so long ago that Corbyn very nearly ripped the heart and soul out of the Labour Party. Casting the memory back (not so far), I’d propose that was a significantly greater ‘crisis’ and yet he’s still there and so are the seemingly irreparable divisions within the party and the electorate... What should we learn from that?

I dunno.  I think Corbyn is fairly popular amongst Labour members.  Their membership has rocketed.  I think that as more Blairites get shown the door, the popularity of Labour will increase even further.

No-one likes or trusts Theresa May, Boris and that Mogg bloke whoever he is.

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