PTO or 12v winch (110)

[Suffolk-Matt]

Been a few times one would come in handy so looking for some advice.

 

Whats better for arb use, PTO or 12v? I have a defender 110.

 

Pros and cons for the above?

 

What to look out for on the second hand market?

 

Thanks

[mendiplogs]

Been a few times one would come in handy so looking for some advice.

 

Whats better for arb use, PTO or 12v? I have a defender 110.

 

Pros and cons for the above?

 

What to look out for on the second hand market?

 

Thanks

 

Hi MATT what it to run on LR mate warn 8274 12v or a super winch pto H14 mate there good thanks Jon

[mendiplogs]

Been a few times one would come in handy so looking for some advice.

 

Whats better for arb use, PTO or 12v? I have a defender 110.

 

Pros and cons for the above?

 

What to look out for on the second hand market?

 

Thanks

 

Hi Matt sorry for got to say a pto will just keep as were a 12v one will slow up when under large loads or just buy a RED WINCH THEN THAT THE BEST 12 v winch on the market it made in Somerset too :thumbup:thanks Jon

[agrimog]

for arb work, its got to be a pto winch, or a hydraulic one, any 12v electrical winch has a duty cycle that is very small (loaded pull + current = heat, the more work, the hotter it gets, so much so that it is possible to melt the insulation varnish on the windings ! ) with a pto version, you have a much more controllable winch, engine rpm controlls winch speed (fitting a modified cruise control governor will maintain a constant speed irrespective of load) , likewise a hydraulic unit

[mendiplogs]

for arb work, its got to be a pto winch, or a hydraulic one, any 12v electrical winch has a duty cycle that is very small (loaded pull + current = heat, the more work, the hotter it gets, so much so that it is possible to melt the insulation varnish on the windings ! ) with a pto version, you have a much more controllable winch, engine rpm controlls winch speed (fitting a modified cruise control governor will maintain a constant speed irrespective of load) , likewise a hydraulic unit

 

Hi arb do you run a winch off a truck if so what have you got thanks Jon

[agrimog]

which winch, lol.... I run several, uniforest 30e on the pto on the mog, a 15000lb hydraulic mounted on a tpl bracket on the mog and a 12000lb hydraulic, again on a tpl bracket, the 15k one has 100 mtrs of 10mm steel on it for the akward pulls, the skidder is the most used and the "little " one is a backup, to be honest since the uniforest was bought the others do very little work these days

[treequip]

Been a few times one would come in handy so looking for some advice.

 

Whats better for arb use, PTO or 12v? I have a defender 110.

 

Pros and cons for the above?

 

What to look out for on the second hand market?

 

Thanks

 

 

ELECTRIC

Pros.

Simple to fit

Can be operated with remote

Cons.

Relatively poor endurance

Weight issues with extra batteries

 

HYDRAULIC

Pros.

Good endurance

Can be operated with a remote

Cons.

More expensive than electric

Not as simple to fit

More weight (tank, valve, pump, pipes and fluid)

 

Mechanical

Pros.

Very powerful

Good endurance

Cons.

Cant be operated with a remote

 

 

For me arb use is pulling a stem over now and again dragging the same onto trailers, winching vehicles out and suchlike.

 

I use an electric winch for arb and its limitations don't cause any problems.

[mendiplogs]

ELECTRIC

Pros.

Simple to fit

Can be operated with remote

Cons.

Relatively poor endurance

Weight issues with extra batteries

 

HYDRAULIC

Pros.

Good endurance

Can be operated with a remote

Cons.

More expensive than electric

Not as simple to fit

More weight (tank, valve, pump, pipes and fluid)

 

Mechanical

Pros.

Very powerful

Good endurance

Cons.

Cant be operated with a remote

 

 

For me arb use is pulling a stem over now and again dragging the same onto trailers, winching vehicles out and suchlike.

 

I use an electric winch for arb and its limitations don't cause any problems.

Hi there what 12v winch do you have then thanks Jon

[treequip]

Hi there what 12v winch do you have then thanks Jon

 

Warn 8274

[treequip]

Just a thought, if you fit a winch make sure the fixings are tamper proof, I caught some scrotes looking under mine recently.

 

They were clearly casing the job but found they were going to need half an hour with a grinder to get it off.