Dangerous tree management and public safety

[cartman]

HI ALL,

 

just a quick question,

 

what is considered the industry / field standard to keep public away from a dead or decaying tree

 

barrier tape? is there anything else that is used to ensure the safety of the public ?

 

Jamie

[Le Sanglier]

For what time scale?

[Stubby]

In my experience jo public will go where he wants if it suits him/her. All you can do is sign it tape it barrier it and get it down as quick as you can .

[Gray git]

Problem is once you have put any sort of tape or warning up you are admitting to a problem/danger so if mr I know better still go's in and gets hurt you could be deemed responsible, better to just deal with and remove the danger asap or if its long term exclusion that mettle fencing you get on building sites is about the only option.

[cartman]

For what time scale?

within a week or so

[Le Sanglier]

If its that bad do it tomorrow.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

im sure Mr Humphries will have some constructive advice, he wont miss this thread

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

HI ALL,

 

just a quick question,

 

what is considered the industry / field standard to keep public away from a dead or decaying tree

 

barrier tape? is there anything else that is used to ensure the safety of the public ?

 

Jamie

 

Is there really a safety issue based on occupancy rates, i.e. how many people there n for how long etc., as it is often very easy to 'over-egg' safety issues in our increasingly risk averse society (which often ignores the wider benefits dead/dying/decaying trees bring in terms of ecology and bio-diversity.)

 

If deemed a significant / unacceptable risk, but an important tree, then forming an exclusion zone with appropriate and permanent fencing AND information boards / warning signs whilst admitting a hazard will serve to mitigate any (unlikely) claim which may arise. If there is a management strategy / policy in place to support this approach this is very useful too.Thereafter, in the appropriate setting, let nature do its best.

 

Obviously if you are formally advising such then you should have appropriate Prof. Indemnity insurance in place.

 

Hope this helps...

Paul

[codlasher]

I found that there was a good back up system from the local town Council is the tree is rated as dangerous. 'Elf and safety will back you too in very prompt removal. There are also waives to TPO's as well.

On a survey you will have six months time period to comply else you are putting your self and the public at risk.

'Get on with it tomorrow' is a good mantra.

codlasher

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I found that there was a good back up system from the local town Council is the tree is rated as dangerous. 'Elf and safety will back you too in very prompt removal. There are also waives to TPO's as well.

On a survey you will have six months time period to comply else you are putting your self and the public at risk.

'Get on with it tomorrow' is a good mantra.

codlasher

 

I found that there was a good back up system from the local town Council is the tree is rated as dangerous

 

I dint understand that sentence at all.

 

'Elf and safety will back you too in very prompt removal.

 

the HSE will not back you up, why would they?

 

There are also waives to TPO's as well.

 

requiring a five day notice I believe? under the DDD dead diseased and dangerous claus

 

On a survey you will have six months time period to comply else you are putting your self and the public at risk.

 

depending on the recommendations given in the survey data/report, they may have stipulated within 7 days, 3 months, 12 months or something entirely different.