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14 hours ago, Pete Mctree said:

Doing some scrub clearance off a really steep slope above Runswick bay. Nice views but a crappy job.

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I would think it would be a crap job that by the looks of it, but you have to agree it aint a bad office view on a decent day, we get out of there fishing in the warmer months and the views looking back to shore are fantastic 

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8 hours ago, Mark Bolam said:

7m3-3600kg.

 

That’s 514kg/m3.

 

My tranny has a legal payload of 650 with crew, dog and tools.

 

I know Josh is talking about piss-wet beech chip, which is about as heavy as it gets, but the stats are still pretty worrying for anyone even to try staying legal on 3.5 tonners.

 

Level load for Tranny is 2.4m3.

 

1.2t for a level load.

 

I always reckoned level was legal, and beyond that I was chancing (every job basically), but this has really bought home to me what I’ve always known.

 

It’s bollocks.

 

It’s all total and utter bollocks.

 

The nicest arb truck I’ve ever seen was an Isuzu or Canter at one of the shows back in the day.

Tool lockers, ladder racks, blah blah.

Beautiful.

Real world working payload? 550kg.

 

Do your maths fellas.

Im a big fan of a restricted licence system up to 4.5k without the O licence regs just to keep us all at least semi-legal.

I’ve been drinking tonight, obviously.

 

On behalf of everyone who knows we do the job with trucks that are adequate for the job but are overloaded every day, what is the solution?

 

 

What suprised me was it wasnt really piss-wet! But beech chip does seem to compact itself nicely.

 

Normally I reckon you need to allow 350-450kg per m3

 

11 hours ago, IronMike said:

Looks decent! Steel ramps are a regret of mine, well my back regrets my heads decision anyway! 😂🤦🏼‍♂️

 

Haha, yeah, ive had steel ifor ramps before, nice and grippy but rather heavy! the ali Ifor ramps ive got now are very light, but dangerously slippy even when slightly damp, had to screw in loads of studs to compensate.

 

Just need to remind myself when swearing about the steel ramps that this trailer was 3-4k cheaper than other makes!

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7m3-3600kg.
 
That’s 514kg/m3.
 
My tranny has a legal payload of 650 with crew, dog and tools.
 
I know Josh is talking about piss-wet beech chip, which is about as heavy as it gets, but the stats are still pretty worrying for anyone even to try staying legal on 3.5 tonners.
 
Level load for Tranny is 2.4m3.
 
1.2t for a level load.
 
I always reckoned level was legal, and beyond that I was chancing (every job basically), but this has really bought home to me what I’ve always known.
 
It’s bollocks.
 
It’s all total and utter bollocks.
 
The nicest arb truck I’ve ever seen was an Isuzu or Canter at one of the shows back in the day.
Tool lockers, ladder racks, blah blah.
Beautiful.
Real world working payload? 550kg.
 
Do your maths fellas.
Im a big fan of a restricted licence system up to 4.5k without the O licence regs just to keep us all at least semi-legal.
I’ve been drinking tonight, obviously.
 
On behalf of everyone who knows we do the job with trucks that are adequate for the job but are overloaded every day, what is the solution?
 


Feel your pain. We tried the mog route which was semi-legal ish (better than regularly running the tranny at 5t anyway) trouble was when our regular ace mechanic moved on, we couldn’t live with the maintenance/parts/low loader/downtime costs.

Tried a 6.5t Iveco crew cab on a restricted O’ licence which was about the best solution we could find.

It’s not just arbs, Mark.. try running a busy furniture business with a Luton transit without overloading it.

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Feel your pain. We tried the mog route which was semi-legal ish (better than regularly running the tranny at 5t anyway) trouble was when our regular ace mechanic moved on, we couldn’t live with the maintenance/parts/low loader/downtime costs.

Tried a 6.5t Iveco crew cab on a restricted O’ licence which was about the best solution we could find.

It’s not just arbs, Mark.. try running a busy furniture business with a Luton transit without overloading it.

I think if you don't go 7.5tonner then it's trailer (2.5t payload) or 4x4 tipper and then you can't fit in enough chip to overload.

It is weird though, I'd be interested in just how we got to this 3.5t figure in the legislation that is now controlling the design of trucks. It doesn't make sense really, it leads to useless trucks so why not 4.5t? 5t?
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I think if you don't go 7.5tonner then it's trailer (2.5t payload) or 4x4 tipper and then you can't fit in enough chip to overload.

It is weird though, I'd be interested in just how we got to this 3.5t figure in the legislation that is now controlling the design of trucks. It doesn't make sense really, it leads to useless trucks so why not 4.5t? 5t?
And also i think it is more dangerous towing 3.5t than having that weight on a 3.5t tipper. I guess there is sound reasoning behind it.

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On 21/02/2021 at 00:44, Mark Bolam said:

7m3-3600kg.

 

That’s 514kg/m3.

 

My tranny has a legal payload of 650 with crew, dog and tools.

 

I know Josh is talking about piss-wet beech chip, which is about as heavy as it gets, but the stats are still pretty worrying for anyone even to try staying legal on 3.5 tonners.

 

Level load for Tranny is 2.4m3.

 

1.2t for a level load.

 

I always reckoned level was legal, and beyond that I was chancing (every job basically), but this has really bought home to me what I’ve always known.

 

It’s bollocks.

 

It’s all total and utter bollocks.

 

The nicest arb truck I’ve ever seen was an Isuzu or Canter at one of the shows back in the day.

Tool lockers, ladder racks, blah blah.

Beautiful.

Real world working payload? 550kg.

 

Do your maths fellas.

Im a big fan of a restricted licence system up to 4.5k without the O licence regs just to keep us all at least semi-legal.

I’ve been drinking tonight, obviously.

 

On behalf of everyone who knows we do the job with trucks that are adequate for the job but are overloaded every day, what is the solution?

 

Tut tut 😉 Transits are shocking on their  legal payload. Level  ' looks' legal in passing, 7.5 t lorry or lots of trips  😕 or tracter. K

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7m3-3600kg.
 
That’s 514kg/m3.
 
My tranny has a legal payload of 650 with crew, dog and tools.
 
I know Josh is talking about piss-wet beech chip, which is about as heavy as it gets, but the stats are still pretty worrying for anyone even to try staying legal on 3.5 tonners.
 
Level load for Tranny is 2.4m3.
 
1.2t for a level load.
 
I always reckoned level was legal, and beyond that I was chancing (every job basically), but this has really bought home to me what I’ve always known.
 
It’s bollocks.
 
It’s all total and utter bollocks.
 
The nicest arb truck I’ve ever seen was an Isuzu or Canter at one of the shows back in the day.
Tool lockers, ladder racks, blah blah.
Beautiful.
Real world working payload? 550kg.
 
Do your maths fellas.
Im a big fan of a restricted licence system up to 4.5k without the O licence regs just to keep us all at least semi-legal.
I’ve been drinking tonight, obviously.
 
On behalf of everyone who knows we do the job with trucks that are adequate for the job but are overloaded every day, what is the solution?
 


The solution is to find all the VOSA hot spots and avoid them at all costs.

I got caught with a bold tyre about 3 years back and I didn’t mind the fine or redoing the MOT but I did mind the way they made me feel like I’d just killed someone. I’ll never for get the Tutting and the shaking of there heads, getting everyone around to see how much of a idiot I was.

Vans are checked over every morning before going out now.
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The solution is to find all the VOSA hot spots and avoid them at all costs.

I got caught with a bold tyre about 3 years back and I didn’t mind the fine or redoing the MOT but I did mind the way they made me feel like I’d just killed someone. I’ll never for get the Tutting and the shaking of there heads, getting everyone around to see how much of a idiot I was.

Vans are checked over every morning before going out now.


That’s a great idea for another directory.. perhaps Steve could put one together alongside the chip-site directory. That way you could download the route-plan straight off Arbtalk...
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