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Dean Lofthouse
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Very nice, but I'm less impressed by their current product range, overdesigned plastic mouldings and not very practical. No centre oscillation even on the big ones, which IMO is a killer on anything but flat ground. Avant are the same. Id buy a used GTxx in a flash (or one of the various 5rd party brand equivalents - Boxer, Gamma4 etc.)

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Some of their text on the website:

 

The environmentally friendly 90hp, Tier 3 Interim 4 engine coupled with a top road speed of 40km hour and an impressive towing capacity of 3.0t guarantee a powerful performance for productive operations. The Multihog MH90 has the capability of carrying 2000kgs on the front, 2000kgs on the rear whilst towing 3000kgs all at the same time. The ultra low operating ground pressure of less than 10psi per wheel and the hydraulic flow of 120l per min @ 220bar opens the door to an extremely wide range of attachments.

 

Sounds good! It has a bigger engine than the Cabstar!

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Some of their text on the website:

 

The environmentally friendly 90hp, Tier 3 Interim 4 engine coupled with a top road speed of 40km hour and an impressive towing capacity of 3.0t guarantee a powerful performance for productive operations. The Multihog MH90 has the capability of carrying 2000kgs on the front, 2000kgs on the rear whilst towing 3000kgs all at the same time.....................etc...............etc

 

On the other hand, if you read the specs of the MH90, it says:

 

Unladen Weight = 3080kg

 

Gross Train Weight = 6000kg

 

 

Thus if it has 2000kg on the front or back it can only tow <980kg

 

Or the most it can tow is <2980kg, as it must stay within its GTW.

 

Also it may do 40kph, but on the public road the law in the UK limits it to <20mph (~<32kph).

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Thus if it has 2000kg on the front or back it can only tow <920kg

 

Or the most it can tow is <2920kg, as it must stay within its GTW.

 

Also it may do 40kph, but on the public road the law in the UK limits it to <20mph (~<32kph).

 

I don’t know what happened to my mental arithmetic in my last post :blushing:, but the corrections to weights are in bold ;)

 

 

you state the public road only allows 20mph for the MH which i would very much like to know more about if you could send me a link please, as this is something i am unaware of?

 

 

The above/below ><20mph limit is by virtue of “the road vehicles construction and usage regulations” (C & U reg’s), the long and the short of it is, if it travels legally above >20mph it must always be using the higher standard defined.

 

This law and its later smaller updates as well as earlier versions or sections within that were not revoked regulate vehicle construction and usage as the name implies, it is used by the police and VOSA , it covers everything from electric pedestrian controlled vehicles to heavy haulage lorry’s, and from sidecars to trailers, basically any type of road vehicle or trailed items attach to road vehicles, it covers suspension, brakes, steering, axle spacing, length, width, hight, projections, weights (inc axle), etc, etc, etc, it also contains “definitions” which e.g. define what an “agricultural tractor” is or what “road friendly suspension” is etc, etc.

 

Key area’s in this instance would be: (for use on the public road >20mph)

1: Steering, for use above >20mph the vehicle must use a mechanical steering link, so hydrostatic steering is not permitted as there is no mechanical steering link between the steering wheel and the road wheel/s that steer or between the 2 chassis section either side of the pivot if articulated steering.

 

This is why lorrys, cars or Unimog’s and Fastrac’s use steering box or steering racks and why they only have “power assistance” at most, rather than powered steering, the main reason for this is down to safety, with a mechanical link should the engine cut out or a hydraulic pipe burst etc etc steering is maintained.

 

2: Brakes, this has 2 key area’s, brake performance & system type/integrity,

 

for use >20mph an efficacy of a minimum >50% of the vehicle weight is required, that is to say that if a vehicle weighed 6000kg it would need to generate at the very least >3000kg of braking force as a sum-total across all its axels,

it ALSO has to generate >50% braking on each individual axle based on the total weight imposed on that axel, (this brings an extra challenge to vehicles that e.g. have implements mounted forward of the front axle, or rearward of the rear axle) so the true minimum braking force would have to be at lest 50% of each axels maximum rated weight capacity,

 

Above >20mph the use of hydrostatic brakes, or hydraulic brakes that require pumps to maintain pressure are not permitted, each road wheel must have its own brake – this precludes brakes mounted on e.g. axle differential inputs/gearbox outputs which can only really serve as “hand brakes” (not the same as hub brakes or inboard brakes which work on half-shaft)

so your only choice here would be a car like system with vacuum (servo) assistance, or air over hydraulic as you would find on e.g. 7.5t trucks, Unimog, Fastrac.

 

3: suspension, to travel above >20mph the vehicle needs to be fitted with road friendly suspension supporting a bulk of the vehicles weight which allows each wheel to move relatively independently up/down while supporting the vehicle weight via the suspension, so your options here are coil or leaf springs, air springs, or hydraulic rams with gas-charged diaphragm accumulators (handy for self-levelling on side-slopes or vs. load! ;) )

 

So basically, whenever something is design for use above >20mph on the public road it must have all the key elements that cars, vans, 4x4/SUV, lorrys, motorbikes, Unimog/Fastrac (as examples of tractors vehicles) or even track-laying vehicles like tanks & APC have.

 

It’s worth noting though for a policeman or man from VOSA to apply the upper limits they must have proof that you were exceeding >20mph, however IF you were actively marketing it as a 40kph on the public highway solution then you would have to conform to all the requirements, but as it is, you only seam to state its maximum speed and not where it can be done, so like with most tractors or most other vehicles it’s the driver who exceeds the speed limit though almost all tractor etc manufactures put labels in the cabs of UK tractors telling the driver the speed limit is 20mph on public roads.

Edited by Steve Bullman
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