define reduction

[Ross Smith]

just interested on everybodies view on this 1.

do reduce the height by 30% or reduce the crown quantity by 30% ?????????

[High Scale]

The whole crown.

[Amelanchier]

Why not specify in terms of dimensions???

 

"Crown reduce by the removal of the outermost 4m of the leaf bearing canopy back to suitable secondary growth points. Ensuring a flowing branch line and a natural crown habit for the species. Resulting pruning cuts will not exceed 100mm in diameter."

 

Just specify the confusion away...

[Ross Smith]

i get really pissed off with the client coming out and saying "well you havent taken much off the height have you" some people understand and some dont want to understand

[Ross Smith]

Why not specify in terms of dimensions???

 

"Crown reduce by the removal of the outermost 4m of the leaf bearing canopy back to suitable secondary growth points. Ensuring a flowing branch line and a natural crown habit for the species. Resulting pruning cuts will not exceed 100mm in diameter."

 

Just specify the confusion away...

well put tony but would the customer understand and do we have the time to explain

[Rich Rule]

i always when reducing take the idea that a 30 % reduction would leave at the end 30% or the entire crown foliage on the floor and not reduce the height of the tree by 1/3rd. Most of the other guys i work with see it as a 10-15% height reduction and reckon when your talking volumes (as in the example above) then it is a thin.

 

for example if you were to take a 60' tree and reduced in height by 30 % you are left with approx 40' tree. By the time you have shaped the rest of the tree around 60-80% of the foliage would be on the deck.

[Dean Lofthouse]

It 30% of the leaf area.

 

You have to count how many leaves are within 1 sq meter and then estimate the total square meter of the crown and times it by how many leaves you have counted this gives you how many leaves are on the tree.

 

Say there are 100,000 leaves on the tree you would have to take off 30,000 for a 30% reduction.

 

If you weigh the first one hundred you can then weigh the rest until you have your quota, it saves you counting every leaf

[Big 'Ammer]

It 30% of the leaf area.

 

You have to count how many leaves are within 1 sq meter and then estimate the total square meter of the crown and times it by how many leaves you have counted this gives you how many leaves are on the tree.

 

Say there are 100,000 leaves on the tree you would have to take off 30,000 for a 30% reduction.

 

If you weigh the first one hundred you can then weigh the rest until you have your quota, it saves you counting every leaf

 

That would be a Hundredweight then Dean.

[Dean Lofthouse]

That would be a Hundredweight then Dean.

 

Your on form tonight mate

[Amelanchier]

well put tony but would the customer understand and do we have the time to explain

 

Try it and see. In my experience people find it easier to envisage 2m (or 6ft for example) off the outermost parts of the tree than a vague "20%".

 

I think its easier to work to as well. I.e., just get up there and take 2m of every bit!! Done.

 

The cut diameter bit shuts up those people who for some reason assume that you're going to hack large limbs off at the main union to achieve your goals.