If You Run A Tree Business - This Affects You

[skyhuck]

Cheers for that Gregsie, copy printed and stored in the truck

 

:dito:

 

I'm laminating mine!!

[porky]

flippin' heck. It comes to something when the horses mouth tells pork pies.

 

The people I spoke too at EA (after speaking to loads of muppets there) assured me that the info given was the final word on the matter.

 

Really does'nt give you much faith in their competance does it?

 

I need both the licence and a paragraph 13 exemption as we are starting to recycle waste timber, but at least tree services can rest easy.

 

Thanks Quickthorn.

 

Often there is a difference between what they would like to see happen and what is the Law.

We need a lawyer on this forum!

[Topcat]

You can apply for the exemptions over the phone,It's just taken me 10 mins.

 

Here's a copy of the email I have just recieved

 

Please find attached notification of Paragraphs 21 & 30.

 

 

 

 

FTAO of Tony Castle, please see key conditions below:

 

Chipping, shredding, cutting or pulverising waste plant matter. [Exemption 21]

 

Key conditions

Only applies to natural wood and plant material

It is for the purpose of recovery or reuse of the material

Key limits

You may process up to 1000 tonnes a week

You may store up to 1000 tonnes at any one time

 

What else do you need to know

 

It doesn't allow the treatment of wood wastes such as treated wooden fencing, wooden furniture etc

Doesn't apply to hazardous wastes

 

Example farming practice

 

Chipping of logs and branches from cutting down trees and hedges, shredding of plant material

Chipping, shredding, cutting or pulverising natural wood waste, so that its bulk can be reduced to make its transport and future recovery easier

 

The exemption also allows sawdust and wood-shavings to be sorted and baled

 

A link to the exemptions part of our website

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/'>http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/business/1745440/1745496/1906135/1985714/?lang=_e'>http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/'>http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/business/1745440/1745496/1906135/1985714/?lang=_e

 

And the waste carrier definitions we discussed re tree surgeons...

 

It is recommended that all tree surgeons are registered as waste carriers, if it is likely that in the course of your business you will carry waste that someone else has produced.

 

You will need to register as a waste carrier if;

you have been asked to cut and remove a tree, or have been given a course of action to take by someone else, then you are not the waste producer, as the decision has been taken by another person.

you take away trees or branches which have been cut down by someone else, as you are not the waste producer.

You will not need to register as a waste carrier if;

you have been given the responsibility to decide when and where to cut and remove trees, for example, a large scale (regular) maintenance contract, then you do not need to register as you are making the decision that produces the waste.

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Stewart Riley

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Customer Service Advisor

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The Environment Agency

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[Dean Lofthouse]

You will need to register as a waste carrier if;

you have been asked to cut and remove a tree, or have been given a course of action to take by someone else, then you are not the waste producer, as the decision has been taken by another person.

 

That really is beurocrasy at it's best.

 

I make the decision it's ok, someone else it's not.

 

I think it's time to emigrate

[Topcat]

dean.......on your invoice just include the words

 

" work to my spec"

 

and your sorted

[Mesterh]

Well I thought it was all done and dusted and that we didnt need these licenses

 

Looks like the best way is to burn everthing in the owners garden

[Mick Stockbridge]

Just registered the yard this week,thanks to the advice and help from fellow member"Greengrass".Could not have been easier,like you said just ten minutes over the phone.

[Mick Stockbridge]

Well I thought it was all done and dusted and that we didnt need these licenses

 

Looks like the best way is to burn everthing in the owners garden

 

It,s only £50 a year for the first three years,then £33 a year.

[garth mc garth]

i think alot of it can be down to the inpecting officers interpritation of the rules, as i have mentioned before the police, vosa and environment agency do 3 day long vehicle stop checks at the end of our farm drive. few weeks ago they fined an elderly woodsman for carrying logs in his truck, i chatted to him and he knew nothing of the license. it was all seasoned processed timber, not just freshly cut green waste being removed off site. how are logs waste? are they not a product?

either way i got my license the other day

[Mick Stockbridge]

We all know its a money spinner,if you get fined £300 you still have to buy the licence anyway.Why pay treble? Dont give them the pleasure!