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Hmm, interesting, not the response I expected.. Do you really think that 3 stubs could cause such an unusual trunk flare? I would have thought that they wouldn't have been pruned all that long ago, else they would have sprouted, or decayed, no?

 

I didnt mean it was entirely due t the stubs!

 

oh god have i made another boo boo:lol:

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Looks pretty normal to me, a bit of lawn mower damage and some basal suckers. Did you probe around the base/root flare?

 

mower damage is a good shout, all the other trees in this line don't have this going on at the base tho?

 

I had a hammer around the base, all sounded very solid. didn't probe as the local dogs obviously like this tree

 

no idea when i'm going to be back there but would like to take better pictures as these ones aren't very good.

 

"There is nothing that says adaption here, but suckers do suggest root damage"

 

Tony, would you say reactive rather than adaptive then?

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would you say reactive rather than adaptive then?

 

These terms overlap; when writing the US risk standard it almost came down to a coin toss. Key point to me is a need for neutrality; when we look at these cases as 'excessive' growth resulting in 'deformities' we cast a negative light on it don't we?

 

On the Metasequoia the girdling root is quite atypical, indicating root/soil issues that affect tree movement, which affects buttressing. the species can put on mega-flares anyway so this is not all that far from the norm. the unfortunate loss of lower limbs :thumbdown: --not just the 3 with stubs left--also altered biomechanics, and flare development.

 

On the maple I agree it could be mostly down to reaction to mower damage.

Re terminology it seems most accurate to me to talk about adaptation to movement and other natural forces, and reaction to wounding and unnatural, or at least atypical, forces.

 

Perhaps both could be considered types of 'response growth', but I keep coming back to Telewski's "All wood is reaction wood" tenet and don't worry about the wording much. :001_huh: What matters is the cause, and how or whether to manage it.

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