2511 pull start

[kram]

The clone. Its done a lot of work but yesterday the pull start began slipping. I cant see any problems under the cover, but seems the plastic dogs are slipping on the flywheel pawls, but they all look fine. The plastic dogs do not look worn.

 

Any ideas?

 

It is the clone, it is different to my Echo, theres an easy start thing in the cover, but dogs and pawls look the same.

Edited May 2 by kram

[MattyF]

Well it’s a half the price Chinese copy …throw it away and buy another … I am not sure what you’re expecting but having owned 5-6 2511’s I’ve never not once had that problem.. get what you pay for 

[MattyF]

Well it’s a half the price Chinese copy …throw it away and buy another … I am not sure what you’re expecting but having owned 5-6 2511’s I’ve never not once had that problem.. get what you pay for 

[AHPP]

7 hours ago, kram said:

The clone. Its done a lot of work but yesterday the pull start began slipping. I cant see any problems under the cover, but seems the plastic dogs are slipping on the flywheel pawls, but they all look fine. The plastic dogs do not look worn.

 

Any ideas?

 

It is the clone, it is different to my Echo, theres an easy start thing in the cover, but dogs and pawls look the same.

 

What do you imagine most of us are going to say?

[kram]

Fifth of the price Matty, but its also a better saw. I have both, so you cant be sore about Echo loosing out.

 

If you'd like to know, the clone is still on its original pull cord and original spring and its done a lot more than my Echo 2511, which has needed spring and cord. So far I consider it equally or more reliable, and better.

 

I dont generally leave a saw running if I'm not immediately making another cut which I imagine is quite hard on the starter components, they get a lot more wear than somone that leaves running until empty.

 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 14:49 by kram

[MattyF]

That’s great… as I said buy another …personally I think anyone who thinks it’s ok to rip off someone else’s work and development is a babe , cheapskate and probably every other insult I can think of too.. what do you think pays for the development of new saws , imo the 2511 was a game changer and echo deserve the credit not the pockets of Chinese sweatshops 

[Mark Bolam]

2 hours ago, kram said:

Fifth of the price Matty, but its also a better saw. I have both, so you cant be sore about Echo loosing out.

 

If you'd like to know, the clone is still on its original pull cord and original spring and its done a lot more than my Echo 2511, which has needed spring and cord. So far I consider it equally or more reliable, and better.

 

I dont generally leave a saw running if I'm not immediately making another cut which I imagine is quite hard on the starter components, they get a lot more wear than somone that leaves running until empty.

 

 

 

 

If you paid attention to what a lot of people with hundreds of years worth of experience between them have told about setting up your Echo with the proper cutting gear you would soon realise which is the better saw.

 

 

[Mike Hill]

You should buy a 3 axis CNC mill,say a DMG MORI then machine some titainium dogs,then turn out the pawls and mill up a Stelite insert for the flywheel.

 

Then after spending £250K on a saw worth £0.12p you will have a start system that lasts forever.

 

This is your current logic.

[peatff]

Just buy another cheap saw and swap bits over. I've had mine for years now so it doesn't owe me anything. Toolstation do one in green that's identical. I couldn't buy a top handle for private use from a legit dealer but for £80 I can't complain at the copy I bought and what work it's done without spending another £100+ on a bar and chain to make it work.

[kram]

10 hours ago, peatff said:

Just buy another cheap saw and swap bits over. I've had mine for years now so it doesn't owe me anything. Toolstation do one in green that's identical. I couldn't buy a top handle for private use from a legit dealer but for £80 I can't complain at the copy I bought and what work it's done without spending another £100+ on a bar and chain to make it work.

Have you got your glasses on? They are both top handles of roughtly the same shape and engine size but thats about it.

 

On 02/05/2026 at 18:29, Mark Bolam said:

 

If you paid attention to what a lot of people with hundreds of years worth of experience between them have told about setting up your Echo with the proper cutting gear you would soon realise which is the better saw.

 

 

 

The Echo is currently fitted with that shite 1/4" PM3 you recommended. I do not like it, the 3/8 is better. I only have one 3/8 .050 bar at the moment otherwise I'd have swapped it back some time ago.

I've not even been using it as a backup, the much larger Makita is being used while the clone is out.

 

On 02/05/2026 at 17:10, MattyF said:

That’s great… as I said buy another …personally I think anyone who thinks it’s ok to rip off someone else’s work and development is a babe , cheapskate and probably every other insult I can think of too.. what do you think pays for the development of new saws , imo the 2511 was a game changer and echo deserve the credit not the pockets of Chinese sweatshops 

 

Echo might deserve some credit however they all run shit out of the box, they did not get that right. I dont know if they just need constant dealer setup or proper porting and tuning to run well, but theres no good dealers close to me, and thats a huge expense that the clone does not need.

 

I know a few people that have bought the Echo after hearing about it, then the find it runs shite and sold it on to get a ms151t, which as standard is much better saw, as is the clone.

 

Anyway I shalll compare them later, and if possible, swap the starter from my Echo into the clone.