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Can't help but feel the insurance companies will be rubbing there hands at this.

 

Will be asking if you intend to tow a trailer and hike the price up especially for younger drivers. 

Personally didn't see anything wrong with the current system, I mean it was hardly silly money for a days training and test. Especially compared with all the other qualifications, courses. 

Although most people that can't tow a trailer probably never will. 

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19 minutes ago, dumper said:

From what I have been lead to understand if my labourer / brash dragger was to have an accident whilst towing a trailer at work it is within the powers of the hse to investigate and look for evidence that they have training, so passing the problem etc back to me, the fact that he didn’t need training according to the dvla dosnt mean he didn’t require training to satisfy health and saftey and also my conscience 

 

Your conscience notwithstanding, if the trailer was roadworthy and the guy has a licence, and it’s insured I don’t see how HSE have any input whatsoever.

 

Happy to be wrong though.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Your conscience notwithstanding, if the trailer was roadworthy and the guy has a licence, and it’s insured I don’t see how HSE have any input whatsoever.

 

Happy to be wrong though.

 

 

Because the law says that employee has to be trained to carry out the operations that you require them to do, you show this with tickets,training register, certificates etc 

if he has accident and says I was not trained you have problems. As an worker he is covered by the health and saftey at work act which states must have received training might be different in France 

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9 minutes ago, dumper said:

Because the law says that employee has to be trained to carry out the operations that you require them to do, you show this with tickets,training register, certificates etc 

if he has accident and says I was not trained you have problems. As an worker he is covered by the health and saftey at work act which states must have received training might be different in France 

That's a very good point you make. One that appears to be very over looked on this subject. 

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39 minutes ago, dumper said:

Because the law says that employee has to be trained to carry out the operations that you require them to do, you show this with tickets,training register, certificates etc 

if he has accident and says I was not trained you have problems. As an worker he is covered by the health and saftey at work act which states must have received training might be different in France 

No, I don’t believe that’s right.

The driver has the responsibility 100%.

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24 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Let me put it another way. 
If someone crashes a sub 750kg truck/chipper does HSE get involved? No of course not, because the person was licensed to drive it, there was no obligation to train by the employer. 
The same now applies but for larger trailers. 

I'm with this, having a license is 'proof' of competence. We all know that isn't necessary correct but in the eyes of the law and HSE that's all that's required.

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Let me put it another way. 
If someone crashes a sub 750kg truck/chipper does HSE get involved? No of course not, because the person was licensed to drive it, there was no obligation to train by the employer. 
The same now applies but for larger trailers. 

When I worked for the council a few years back, we had to pass a council trailer test before we were allowed out with a sub 750.
I expect it’s an insurance thing?
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12 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:


When I worked for the council a few years back, we had to pass a council trailer test before we were allowed out with a sub 750.
I expect it’s an insurance thing?
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It was the same when I worked for the water authority, that said I had to have an in house ticket to go to the toilet on my own.

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15 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

It was the same when I worked for the water authority, that said I had to have an in house ticket to go to the toilet on my own.

All a company needs to prove to Insurers is ‘Adequate Training’, under regulation 9 of PUWER. This can be done in house and recorded/updated as necessary. 
Most companies simply use a training/assessment provider that is widely recognised by insurers such as LANTRA/NPTC, but this is certainly not compulsory.

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