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43 minutes ago, roboted said:

Leaves are completely different and there is more and thicker stem than the ivy behind.

If you zoom into the first pic you'll see the difference. 

Its still Ivy .  Ground cover Ivy changes the shape of its leaf as it climbs . I'm not saying its the same Ivy but Ivy non the less .

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It’s strange how little we (the majority of tree workers) know about ivy idents.

I hadn’t a clue until I started googling around about different sorts.

That Irish ivy is a dusty pigeon shit filled nightmare, I suppose because the pigeons eat the berries and crap in the trees so the seeds germinate at the base.

The English stuff is relatively dainty and easy to strip in comparison.

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