Advice on Small Business Machinery

[topchippyles]

12 minutes ago, Johny Walker said:

2.4t

yanmar is 2.7t

You will get away using the rotating grapple on that size machine and anything bigger. Smaller ones tend to struggle 

[spuddog0507]

22 minutes ago, Johny Walker said:

I wasn't meaning a swinging grab there very limited to what they can do  all mine are fixed rotator grabs on quickhitch

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Never used one of them so cant and would not comment on something i have never used, i have looked at them and for use who are mainly in forestry the fixed grab works well for us we did consider one like yours but we felt it would not stand up to the abuse we would give it, the one,s  we have came from a company on the Wirrell and i have only ever broke one tine off it, eh ripping limestone out, and before you say it yes i know its not made for doing that but sure beats other methods, lad in the yard next to me has just fitted fixed grabs to 2 8 tonne machines and i am yet to have a play on one, the OP just said timber grab and most just go and buy a chinese chocolate one, and some of us have been there and done that,

[doobin]

Fixed rotator grab all the way for Arb work, even down to 1.7/9 mini diggers. I have a grapple too, but the rotator is a game changer. It’s a beast on my 2.7t. 
 

grapples are ok for site clearance but a rotator grab (fixed not swinging) is so much quicker and a must for tight or domestic sites where you need to load precisely. 

[Khriss]

15 hours ago, Dominic Bailey said:

Thanks Khriss. The gripe I have with telehandlers apposed to tractors is there versatility. Great for shifting big lumps of timber and chip, but a tractor can do those things to a degree. Obviously not as well, but I could put a front loader on a tractor and tow substantial weights on the back. 
what’s the reasons you’d choose the telehandler over a tractor? I’d love both 😂 just don’t have the funds.  

Thought went  into my head afterwardz, telehandler can have a basket fitted fr yr hedge cutting and lumping big trunks down or inspection  of Bat roosts fr little extra cost. K

[Brushcutter]

6 hours ago, Khriss said:

Thought went  into my head afterwardz, telehandler can have a basket fitted fr yr hedge cutting and lumping big trunks down or inspection  of Bat roosts fr little extra cost. K

If you read the guidance on what you can and can't do with basket on a telehandler you rapidly find they are a waste of money. 

 

Telehandler are great for moving heavy objects from a to b. They are crap at towing not that you should do that anyway.

 

Of all the bits of kit I've used tractor with front loader was the most useful.  Then tractor with roof mount crane. I

[MattyF]

Telehandler crane with a saw head would be nice though!

[Khriss]

32 minutes ago, MattyF said:

Telehandler crane with a saw head would be nice though!

Some one  will  😉... Give it time! K

[andy cobb]

What about a loader tractor towing a big hook trailer with hiab, rock up at a job and demount your chip box, drop bolster pins in to chassis and load timber and take it back to the yard while the lads are chipping into the box. Then back for the chip box and home for tea and tiffin!

[woody paul]

21 minutes ago, andy cobb said:

What about a loader tractor towing a big hook trailer with hiab, rock up at a job and demount your chip box, drop bolster pins in to chassis and load timber and take it back to the yard while the lads are chipping into the box. Then back for the chip box and home for tea and tiffin!

Good setup on big site jobs, OK if you can get near timber before brash is moved. 

 

[Martin du Preez]

On 06/04/2021 at 21:44, spuddog0507 said:

Tractor with loader yes, forks and a decent sized bucket, that rules your tele handler out of the plan, then if your going to site and taking tractor/trailer and tele handler, you need 2 drivers when just one is needed if you have loader on the tractor, 3 point linkage crane and a decent tipping trailer, you can move timber and chip then but you cant move chip with a forwarding trailer, 2.8 tonne digger is a big time saver and only needs one man, a digger will move brash/log all day at a decent pace as apposed to manual handling it, one digger, one man and 3 gallon of diesel will do the work of 3-4 men hence only one wage to pay, personally i would not have a rotating log grab on a digger as they basically onlt have one use and there is pipes to rip off as well, i find the fixed grab much more useful as you can move log, move brash, push brash in to windrows in woodlands and if you make a mess you can rake brash up with it and if the ground gets ripped up you can rage it leval again and leave the site quit tidy with out sweating your nuts off,

really?? i'd personally take a fixed rotator over a fixed grab any day of the week, it makes all of those things you mentioned 10 times for efficient and easier. I've used both a fair bit and id definitely suggest trying a fixed rotator grab. The fixed none rotating grabs is like having a cast on your arm, why wouldn't you want another dimension of movement?