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Whats the diferance?

 

Lantra http://www.lantra-awards.co.uk/ will give you structured training course and at the end a certificate of training.

 

NPTC http://www.nptc.org.uk/ will give you an indapendently assessed certificate of competence. (this means you can do the task safely and correctly, not that you are any good at earning money from this skill yet!)

 

You need to complie to the heath and saftey regs in the uk have NPTC chain saw units, if you have done your LANTRA course and working with an NPTC qualified operator you can work to gain experance before going for your NPTC, but for other kit like chippers and stump grinds a LANTRA award will be fine.

 

You need to read HSE "Chain saws at work"

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg317.pdf

http://www.hse.gov.uk/agriculture/forestry.htm

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/forindex.htm

 

You all so need to prove you have update training every 3 year for occasional users and 5 years for full time users. How you go about this is up to you, it would be your day in court!

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Whats the diferance?

 

Lantra http://www.lantra-awards.co.uk/ will give you structured training course and at the end a certificate of training.

 

NPTC http://www.nptc.org.uk/ will give you an indapendently assessed certificate of competence. (this means you can do the task safely and correctly, not that you are any good at earning money from this skill yet!)

 

You need to complie to the heath and saftey regs in the uk have NPTC chain saw units, if you have done your LANTRA course and working with an NPTC qualified operator you can work to gain experance before going for your NPTC, but for other kit like chippers and stump grinds a LANTRA award will be fine.

 

You need to read HSE "Chain saws at work"

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg317.pdf

http://www.hse.gov.uk/agriculture/forestry.htm

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/forindex.htm

 

You all so need to prove you have update training every 3 year for occasional users and 5 years for full time users. How you go about this is up to you, it would be your day in court!

 

Nice one!!!!!!:star:

 

I took my tickets before 1998 so im sorted for life,looks like being old ain't so bad!!! :wave:

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Nice one!!!!!!:star:

 

I took my tickets before 1998 so im sorted for life,looks like being old ain't so bad!!! :wave:

 

Snap............:icon14::icon14:

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Sorry i don't follow; just because you did your tickets prior to 1998 how does that make you sorted for life?

 

If you read the links,you will find it states you do not need tickets if you have been using a saw since before Dec 1998,therefore the fact that i have tickets at all clearly shows how conscientious i am, as i have gone above and beyond the requirements of the law:icon14::star::wave:

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All workers who use a chainsaw should be competent to do so. before using a chainsaw to carry out work on or in a tree, a worker should have received appropriate training and obtained a relevant certficate of competence or national comptence award, unless they are undergoing such training and are adequately supervised. However, in the agricultural sector, this requirment only applies to first-time users of a chainsaw.

 

This requirment for a certficate or award applies to people working with chainsaws on or in trees on agricultural holdings. UNLESS it is done as part of agricultural operations (for example hedging, clearing fallen branches, or pruning trees to maintain clearance for machines, etc) by the occupier or his employees and they have used a chainsaw before 5th December 1998.

 

If therefore your chainsaw work is part of agricultural operations AND the work is being done by the land occupier or their employees; AND they have used a chainsaw before the 5th December 1998 then as you say you will not need a ticket.

 

I don't know your working circumstances and if all the above exemptions apply then we are on a winner, if not then just because you have been using a saw before 5/12/98 doesn't mean you don't need to comply to the requirements of having a certficate or award.

 

Owing to the fact that you do have relevant certficates or awards, and let's say the exemptions do not apply to you then i would argue that you are actually meeting the provisions of PUWER 98, and not in fact going above and beyond the requirements of the law.

 

Let me know your thoughts, appears to be an often confused situation.

 

Regards

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If you read page 3 of the third link of the five,it say "use of chainsaws in tree work" and lists exempcitions,one of which is using a saw before 1998.

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to be exempt you will need to meet all 3 criteria, not just using a saw before '98.

 

■ it is being done as part of agricultural operations (eg hedging, clearing fallen

branches, pruning trees to maintain clearance for machines); and

■ the work is being done by the occupier or their employees; and

■ they have used a chainsaw before 5 December 1998.

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Thankyou Colin for reiterating my point as per my previous post:

 

Quote: "This requirment for a certficate or award applies to people working with chainsaws on or in trees on agricultural holdings. UNLESS it is done as part of agricultural operations (for example hedging, clearing fallen branches, or pruning trees to maintain clearance for machines, etc) by the occupier or his employees and they have used a chainsaw before 5th December 1998.

 

If therefore your chainsaw work is part of agricultural operations AND the work is being done by the land occupier or their employees; AND they have used a chainsaw before the 5th December 1998 then as you say you will not need a ticket."

 

What you need to make sure you understand is the AND part of the exemptions, the fact that you have used a saw before 5/12/98 is not a stand alone reason for not achieving a relevant cert or award.

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