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In addition to the no trespassing signs, use "Danger! Do no enter! Very Dangerous Place!!!" signage. And signs with pictorial warnings, as some trespassers will claim not to be literate in English. Also post warnings about dangerous bulls, and dogs running free, that might help dissuade the kids. 

 

On the legal side, Id like to hear of some actual successful suits, rather than conjecture.

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1 hour ago, Woodworks said:

Bloody hell! Do we have to worry about things like this on private land?

 

I have big pile in in a field near a road and this never crossed my mind. Can we honestly be liable if someone trespasses and hurts themselves?

Occupiers Liability Act, so yes you do, even if it's a trespasser,  yr still liable for everything that is on yr land or occurs on yr land.... sorry  ?  k

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4 hours ago, Haironyourchest said:

In addition to the no trespassing signs, use "Danger! Do no enter! Very Dangerous Place!!!" signage. And signs with pictorial warnings, as some trespassers will claim not to be literate in English. Also post warnings about dangerous bulls, and dogs running free, that might help dissuade the kids. 

 

On the legal side, Id like to hear of some actual successful suits, rather than conjecture.

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You are somewhat less liable if an adult gets injured, but regarding children, there is case law (precedents) which gave rise to the  "Attractive Nuisances Doctrine". Basically, because your log pile might look like a fun place to play for kids, you would be required to take steps to ensure that they can't access it. Signs won't cut it. You would need to be happy that there is no risk to stupid kids coming on to your land.

 

Bear in mind that your level of confidence should be gauged not by reading or posting on an internet forum, but rather think of what you might say to a judge should the worst happen.

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Problem you might have is too many signs! If you put up a sign you are saying to the world "Look this is dangerous" and a clever lawyer might argue that you knew it was dangerous but did nothing to make it safe, trying to shift the liability from the stupid onto you.

 

Perhaps look at rhe wood pile and decide what might be a reasonable height for it to be at - consider how stable it s, whether the sides are vertical or sloping and so on and keep it to that safe height... and then no signs needed surely? I would consider a sign "Keep off the log pile", and as long as the gate is locked shut, no trespassing sign and the log pile is out of sight (not tempting people togo in and climb on it) then that should be OK... but if you are worried a quick call to the insurers might give you a clue what they will axxet and pay out on if there is an accident

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