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do you agree with the premise of this video that the teachings in the subject arborpod video are overly and unnecessarily cautious  

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  1. 1. do you agree with teh premise of this video that the teachings in this video are overly and unnecessarily cautious

  2. 2. Would you ever use a hand saw to finish this cut

  3. 3. is it necessary to make an undercut on dead stubs like the one shown in this video

    • yes
    • no
    • of course not, that was ridiculous


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5 hours ago, dadio said:

names please?

 

Okay, let’s start with multiple world champion climber and Husqvarna Ambassador Jo Hedger, runs a successful Arb business along side a successful Arb training company, based in the New Forest.

I could go on but don’t need too.

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On 10/02/2020 at 19:11, The avantgardener said:

A lazy generalisation and quite frankly, a load of shit. I can list individuals who are multiple world champion[ship]* climbers and teach advanced Arboriculture practice here in the UK.

 

6 hours ago, dadio said:

names please?

 

 

1 hour ago, The avantgardener said:

Okay, let’s start with multiple world champion climber and Husqvarna Ambassador Jo Hedger, runs a successful Arb business along side a successful Arb training company, based in the New Forest.

I could go on but don’t need too.


I thought Jo, but as you said it first, how about Bo.

 

WWW.TREES.ORG.UK

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look, here they are in the same article..... how neat is that! 

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* fixed it. Bo, you’re back in.
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2 hours ago, Rich Rule said:

I dont believe Boel is a world champion.


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@rich rule.....How about ITCC Team Competition Champion 2017?

 

 

 

WWW.ITCC-ISA.COM

 

 

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3 minutes ago, The avantgardener said:

Neither is Dadio.

True.

 

TBH I have seen lots of really good comp climbers who are great at getting round a tree.  It doesn’t necessarily mean they are good tree workers.

 

Treework isn’t a simulation of comp climbing it is the other way around.  
 

So being good at one doesn’t mean they are good at the other.  


Yes, I am generalising and there are always exceptions.  I have never met Jo in person, seen her compete, seen her working or even teaching.  
 

A lot of things are taught at college.  Basically that is where the learning starts, ie when you actually start doing work.

 

The best for of learning is through experience, unless you are a dunce.  The brighter dunce will pickup on titbits if information handed down by old timers.  Sadly, there are not that many old school tree workers left.  
 

The job still used to get done without all the shiny bling, bling crap.

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True.
 
TBH I have seen lots of really good comp climbers who are great at getting round a tree.  It doesn’t necessarily mean they are good tree workers.
 
Treework isn’t a simulation of comp climbing it is the other way around.  
 
So being good at one doesn’t mean they are good at the other.  

Yes, I am generalising and there are always exceptions.  I have never met Jo in person, seen her compete, seen her working or even teaching.  
 
A lot of things are taught at college.  Basically that is where the learning starts, ie when you actually start doing work.
 
The best for of learning is through experience, unless you are a dunce.  The brighter dunce will pickup on titbits if information handed down by old timers.  Sadly, there are not that many old school tree workers left.  
 
The job still used to get done without all the shiny bling, bling crap.
Well said mate I'm no slender bell ringer but I still seem to get the work done faster than most that's no self compliment it's a fact nearly 40 years old 22 years in tree work body is ruined but my experiences help me save energy in the tree allot of people are far to unnecessarily busy in the tree in their early years climbing!
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Did I miss something here?

 

 This woman runs a tree service she is not a college professor,  as in having a PhD.

 

The best college professor that tried his hand at tree climbing promptly killed himself. 

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3 hours ago, dadio said:

Did I miss something here?

 

 This woman runs a tree service she is not a college professor,  as in having a PhD.

 

The best college professor that tried his hand at tree climbing promptly killed himself. 

Yes, you missed the part where at no point in your post have you mentioned anyone needing or having a PhD.

 

She runs an Arb company AND an Arb training company that offers the highest training standards currently available in this country, did I mention she is also a multiple world champion climber?

 

As far as I know, there is no PhD on earth purely on tree climbing/cutting techniques, the reason for that is it isn’t actually rocket science, there are some excellent professionals on here who don’t require a PhD to do their job.

If I was just starting out and wanted to learn how to climb/rig/prune and dismantle, I would work with someone like Jo Hedger or Bigtreedon, not Professor Plumb.

 

 

 

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