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1 minute ago, Johnsond said:

As a contractor I’d be happy to see more of the Norwegian style employees rights, benefits and even taxes come in to the UK sector rather than the absolute cut throat use you and dump you mentality that is in place. I’m taxed schedule D which is NI at source and the rest through self assessment so basically no difference tax wise to an employee yet we get nothing ie no holiday, sickness, pension or any of the benefits an employee would get, also open your mouth at the wrong time and you are goosed, ie you just don’t get the call back. I’ve been in the RMT for years and quite frankly unless you are involved in trains they are not interested. Chatting to a Norwegian crane op on deck couple of days ago and he retires at 62 with the same wage or 80% of it I’m not quite sure of the figures. The way they are looked after is incredible, he was asked to start a trip early and do overtime for which the entire trip was paid at triple time. Crazy thing is the tax they are on for what they get back when you break it down and get over the 41% level here in Scotland actually is not that much different. The thing that bothers me the most is this whole pension thing ticking away waiting to bite us all on the arse in a few years time. 

The Unions in the UK seem quite useless. All talk and no action, but I think the members make the real difference in Norway. If Baker or Schlumberger are having their rights removed then Halliburton employee's will join them on Strike. Its very well organised and the Unions tell the Service Companies and Operators which Rigs they will take out of action. They will then try and mediate till the issue is resolved. Often it ends up as a Strike and we'll go on strike to get the rights of the competitor back, or improved. These guys are risking their jobs for guys who dont even work in the same company. Its really quite something. The Companies are banned from using other workers to cover the guys on Strike, from Norway or the UK (for example) The Union members will then patrol the Heli-ports making sure you're not going to that particular rig to fill the role of the position thats on Strike. Then the Rig has to shut down Drilling as they need these positions. This puts a lot of pressure on the Service Companies not only from the Union but from the likes of Shell as they are losing out big time. Its generally soon resolved. 

 

Yes, over time is great! I think Ive had close to 40 days OT this year. But we only get OT in our off periods, or if our trip goes past 14 days in our on-period. 

 

The State Pension in Norway is another great example of a country rewarding hard work. You pay into your own state pension pot. The more you earn the more you personally pay in. Its capped though, at something like 100,000nok a year. So I have at least 1,000,000nok in my personal State Pension. When I retire (62 or 67) I get that sum divided over the current life expectancy time period. So if the average is 82 years when you kick it, then whatever's in your own pot is divided over 20 years. In the UK regardless what you pay in tax you'll end up with the same pension as a SmackHead. And are the SNP planning on a State Pension like Norway? Of course not. :D 

 

Im on 46% tax. But like most people I overpay 12% that gets paid back in Junes salary. Its called Holiday pay as Holidays are not covered by the employer. But 12% back in June is a nice tax free (already paid) lump sum. All over time  and off-shore bonus is taxed 50%. Norway still allows you to claim back 25% on the interest paid on Mortgages. That really adds up, could be as much as £3000 back in the summer. 

 

I pay my NI here in Scotland as well. Just to keep my contributions ticking over and to use the NHS. Another 6 years and I'll have the 30 years needed for a full State Pension, whatever that will be by the time I actually retire. Bugger all I'll assume. 

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24 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

As a contractor I’d be happy to see more of the Norwegian style employees rights, benefits and even taxes come in to the UK sector rather than the absolute cut throat use you and dump you mentality that is in place. I’m taxed schedule D which is NI at source and the rest through self assessment so basically no difference tax wise to an employee yet we get nothing ie no holiday, sickness, pension or any of the benefits an employee would get, also open your mouth at the wrong time and you are goosed, ie you just don’t get the call back. I’ve been in the RMT for years and quite frankly unless you are involved in trains they are not interested. Chatting to a Norwegian crane op on deck couple of days ago and he retires at 62 with the same wage or 80% of it I’m not quite sure of the figures. The way they are looked after is incredible, he was asked to start a trip early and do overtime for which the entire trip was paid at triple time. Crazy thing is the tax they are on for what they get back when you break it down and get over the 41% level here in Scotland actually is not that much different. The thing that bothers me the most is this whole pension thing ticking away waiting to bite us all on the arse in a few years time. 

My overall impression of the UK (and I suppose it probably extends to the oil sector) is that we are incredibly inefficient. There isn't a broad view of complete systems to iron out inefficiencies. They were redoing a couple of walls alongside a road at the northern end of Cullompton for about 4-5 weeks earlier in autumn. Two walls, perhaps 150ft long in total, red brick construction, 3-4ft high. Traffic control, many, many contractors, tens of thousands of pounds of cost and over a month of traffic disruption (and the associated costs). All that for two walls. 

 

I can't put my finger on why it is we're so institutionally inefficient. The example of high speed rail is perhaps a better one. The French have done TGV for £5-17m per km. HS2 is presently being forecast to cost £383m/km. I know we're a small island and compulsory purchase will make up some of that, but the magnitude of it is astonishing.

 

I know that there are thousands of world leading companies in the UK, but they seem to exist in spite of the inherent environment of inefficiency, rather than because of it. 

 

It's amazing the UK can compete at all given how third rate our infrastructure is compared to the rest of western Europe. I'm not trying to UK bash here, but I'm trying to understand why in the past 50 years we've been left so far behind in this regard.

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16 hours ago, Big J said:

I agree, and I am. 

 

I don't see how me pointing out that both we and the Americans have pathalogical liars in office has got anything to do with being a sore loser. Corbyn was a terrible candidate. Labour could have won if they'd not persisted with this daft uber socialist agenda. It just doesn't cut the mustard with the British electorate. 

 

I simply object to elections which are reduced to popularity contests between untrustworthy and duplicitous individuals, trading personal insults and insisting they aren't held account for the promises they made the day before. All of this leaves me with very little faith in the objective value of democracy in this country. The candidates are often dispicable, the system corrupt and the electorate easily (and willingly?) mislead. 

 

 

Like a Jack Russel with a rat you are Jonathan ! 😁 Happy Crimbo by the way .

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6 minutes ago, Stubby said:

Like a Jack Russel with a rat you are Jonathan ! 😁 Happy Crimbo by the way .

To you too Andy :D 

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2 hours ago, Big J said:

My overall impression of the UK (and I suppose it probably extends to the oil sector) is that we are incredibly inefficient. There isn't a broad view of complete systems to iron out inefficiencies. They were redoing a couple of walls alongside a road at the northern end of Cullompton for about 4-5 weeks earlier in autumn. Two walls, perhaps 150ft long in total, red brick construction, 3-4ft high. Traffic control, many, many contractors, tens of thousands of pounds of cost and over a month of traffic disruption (and the associated costs). All that for two walls. 

 

I can't put my finger on why it is we're so institutionally inefficient. The example of high speed rail is perhaps a better one. The French have done TGV for £5-17m per km. HS2 is presently being forecast to cost £383m/km. I know we're a small island and compulsory purchase will make up some of that, but the magnitude of it is astonishing.

 

I know that there are thousands of world leading companies in the UK, but they seem to exist in spite of the inherent environment of inefficiency, rather than because of it. 

 

It's amazing the UK can compete at all given how third rate our infrastructure is compared to the rest of western Europe. I'm not trying to UK bash here, but I'm trying to understand why in the past 50 years we've been left so far behind in this regard.

How long have  we been in the EU j !!. 

As  for the oil industry, I’d say defo not inefficient J possibly wasteful mind, and in some parts we are in the UK world leaders, Offshore commercial diving for example, the UK sector has lead the world in standards and safety. Germany and it’s safety and practices are in the dark ages in this area as a point of interest. Yes there are huge changes to be made J let’s hope we see some of them come into play in the future. 

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On 25/12/2019 at 13:15, Johnsond said:

How long have  we been in the EU j !!. 

As  for the oil industry, I’d say defo not inefficient J possibly wasteful mind, and in some parts we are in the UK world leaders, Offshore commercial diving for example, the UK sector has lead the world in standards and safety. Germany and it’s safety and practices are in the dark ages in this area as a point of interest. Yes there are huge changes to be made J let’s hope we see some of them come into play in the future. 

Scotland are also leading the way in other fields also. The Intelligent Completions and intelligent flow control devices. Petroleum Energy Services, WellDynamics and Red Spider were all Aberdeen Start-ups. They have lead the way in revolutionising the way oil and gas is recovered around the globe. The competitors scrambled to catch up and still run vastly inferior products. I was working along side one competitor last trip and it was laughable how bad their designs where. :D Of course I reminded them daily. :P 

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24 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Scotland are also leading the way in other fields also. The Intelligent Completions and intelligent flow control devices. Petroleum Energy Services, WellDynamics and Red Spider were all Aberdeen Start-ups. They have lead the way in revolutionising the way oil and gas is recovered around the globe. The competitors scrambled to catch up and still run vastly inferior products. I was working along side one competitor last trip and it was laughable how bad their designs where. :D Of course I reminded them daily. :P 

Come on Andy don’t forget the English or should I say British contribution 😀

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Is this generation o Scots planning ony monuments to those who currently define or characterise Scottish Society, if not perhaps Scottish culture, and of course I speak of the NED's. 

 

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