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56 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Ha.

 

Not against it, I bought 10 litres for my little Echo, but then we’d forget it, so it just became for emergencies.

 

Anyway, point I’m making, if there is one, is that saying that a mid range saw (for instance) will last longer if you use alkalyte is rather negated if you’ve spent more than the cost of a new saw in two years of use.

Yep I see that . My mate wont sharpen an 020/200 chain coz the down time lost cutting is more than the cost of a new chain .  Thing is , about your point , you just might be in better health in those 2 years to keep on using that saw ...

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2 hours ago, Dan Maynard said:

I was thinking this, probably forestry cutters most at risk due to constant exposure? Are there any stats or were they all smoking rollups anyway so difficult to isolate a cause of lung damage?

I haven't seen anything relating to inhalation of particulates specific to forestry workers. There is an acknowledged link between inhaling wood or leather dust and nasal/sinus cancer.

 

My felling partner had a tumour removed from the back of his nose, the surgeon says it was likely from 2t fumes but as his dad was a carpenter I'd say the link was more likely wood dust.

 

Two of the 10 or so timber buyers I sold to died of throat cancer.

 

The link is also established with Human Papiloma virus, so don't pick your nose with warty fingers or stick your nose in warty fannies.

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17 hours ago, openspaceman said:

My felling partner had a tumour removed from the back of his nose, the surgeon says it was likely from 2t fumes but as his dad was a carpenter I'd say the link was more likely wood dust.

Just a follow up on this; I was with him today cutting his firewood as his poor sense of balance means he won't use a chainsaw.  He says his surgeon thinks there is a slight possibility of a link between nasal/throat cancer and the use of petrol hedge trimmers but the corpus of patients is small so difficult to be sure.

 

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18 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Ha.

 

Not against it, I bought 10 litres for my little Echo, but then we’d forget it, so it just became for emergencies.

 

Anyway, point I’m making, if there is one, is that saying that a mid range saw (for instance) will last longer if you use alkalyte is rather negated if you’ve spent more than the cost of a new saw in two years of use.

That is true but you are taking cost as the sole criteria. I have machines like pole saws hedgecutters and an old Husky 181 that might not get used for a couple of months after I put them away but (IME) I know that they will run up fine when I get them out again because they had a tank full of Aspen when I stored them. The same goes for the lawnmower at home. I also know the difference in how I feel after a day running my tools on alkylate fuel compared to a day running somebody else's with pump fuel. 2 stroke stinks.

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5 minutes ago, felixthelogchopper said:

That is true but you are taking cost as the sole criteria. I have machines like pole saws hedgecutters and an old Husky 181 that might not get used for a couple of months after I put them away but (IME) I know that they will run up fine when I get them out again because they had a tank full of Aspen when I stored them. The same goes for the lawnmower at home. I also know the difference in how I feel after a day running my tools on alkylate fuel compared to a day running somebody else's with pump fuel. 2 stroke stinks.

Yes, cost was the only criteria I was talking about.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Yes, cost was the only criteria I was talking about.

 

 

Criterion in the singular.

 

For punters not buying in bulk what about all these plastic containers? Surely Stihl and Aspen should look at making them reusable with a deposit?

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13 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

Criterion in the singular.

 

For punters not buying in bulk what about all these plastic containers? Surely Stihl and Aspen should look at making them reusable with a deposit?

Good shout criterion/criteria wise, hoist on my own petard there.

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14 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

Criterion in the singular.

 

For punters not buying in bulk what about all these plastic containers? Surely Stihl and Aspen should look at making them reusable with a deposit?

I have asked this . The containers are quite heavy duty plastic Seems a shame not to re use them . You could maybe get a few pence back as an incentive ? Like the old soda syphons . . Chucked a Husqvarna one in the recycle today . They took it no problem as it didn't smell of petrol .

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5 hours ago, felixthelogchopper said:

That is true but you are taking cost as the sole criteria. I have machines like pole saws hedgecutters and an old Husky 181 that might not get used for a couple of months after I put them away but (IME) I know that they will run up fine when I get them out again because they had a tank full of Aspen when I stored them. The same goes for the lawnmower at home. I also know the difference in how I feel after a day running my tools on alkylate fuel compared to a day running somebody else's with pump fuel. 2 stroke stinks.

Am I the only person who puts away a 2 stroke tool running or regular fuel away at the end of a season and fire it up again no worries the next season? 

 

I know it will gum/varnish up the carb but if Ive forgot to drain or run the tank dry its never been an issue firing up again. 

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2 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Am I the only person who puts away a 2 stroke tool running or regular fuel away at the end of a season and fire it up again no worries the next season? 

 

I know it will gum/varnish up the carb but if Ive forgot to drain or run the tank dry its never been an issue firing up again. 

Well it does happen, personally, on my bigger saws, I’ll tip the fuel out on the gravel then start them up and run them out of fuel completely.

 

I've had plenty of clients who have brought out their two strokes to me asking why it won’t start after a winter in a shed, maybe using higher quality oils have something to do with it.

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