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17 hours ago, openspaceman said:

My felling partner had a tumour removed from the back of his nose, the surgeon says it was likely from 2t fumes but as his dad was a carpenter I'd say the link was more likely wood dust.

Just a follow up on this; I was with him today cutting his firewood as his poor sense of balance means he won't use a chainsaw.  He says his surgeon thinks there is a slight possibility of a link between nasal/throat cancer and the use of petrol hedge trimmers but the corpus of patients is small so difficult to be sure.

 

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18 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Ha.

 

Not against it, I bought 10 litres for my little Echo, but then we’d forget it, so it just became for emergencies.

 

Anyway, point I’m making, if there is one, is that saying that a mid range saw (for instance) will last longer if you use alkalyte is rather negated if you’ve spent more than the cost of a new saw in two years of use.

That is true but you are taking cost as the sole criteria. I have machines like pole saws hedgecutters and an old Husky 181 that might not get used for a couple of months after I put them away but (IME) I know that they will run up fine when I get them out again because they had a tank full of Aspen when I stored them. The same goes for the lawnmower at home. I also know the difference in how I feel after a day running my tools on alkylate fuel compared to a day running somebody else's with pump fuel. 2 stroke stinks.

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5 minutes ago, felixthelogchopper said:

That is true but you are taking cost as the sole criteria. I have machines like pole saws hedgecutters and an old Husky 181 that might not get used for a couple of months after I put them away but (IME) I know that they will run up fine when I get them out again because they had a tank full of Aspen when I stored them. The same goes for the lawnmower at home. I also know the difference in how I feel after a day running my tools on alkylate fuel compared to a day running somebody else's with pump fuel. 2 stroke stinks.

Yes, cost was the only criteria I was talking about.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Yes, cost was the only criteria I was talking about.

 

 

Criterion in the singular.

 

For punters not buying in bulk what about all these plastic containers? Surely Stihl and Aspen should look at making them reusable with a deposit?

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13 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

Criterion in the singular.

 

For punters not buying in bulk what about all these plastic containers? Surely Stihl and Aspen should look at making them reusable with a deposit?

Good shout criterion/criteria wise, hoist on my own petard there.

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14 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

Criterion in the singular.

 

For punters not buying in bulk what about all these plastic containers? Surely Stihl and Aspen should look at making them reusable with a deposit?

I have asked this . The containers are quite heavy duty plastic Seems a shame not to re use them . You could maybe get a few pence back as an incentive ? Like the old soda syphons . . Chucked a Husqvarna one in the recycle today . They took it no problem as it didn't smell of petrol .

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5 hours ago, felixthelogchopper said:

That is true but you are taking cost as the sole criteria. I have machines like pole saws hedgecutters and an old Husky 181 that might not get used for a couple of months after I put them away but (IME) I know that they will run up fine when I get them out again because they had a tank full of Aspen when I stored them. The same goes for the lawnmower at home. I also know the difference in how I feel after a day running my tools on alkylate fuel compared to a day running somebody else's with pump fuel. 2 stroke stinks.

Am I the only person who puts away a 2 stroke tool running or regular fuel away at the end of a season and fire it up again no worries the next season? 

 

I know it will gum/varnish up the carb but if Ive forgot to drain or run the tank dry its never been an issue firing up again. 

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2 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Am I the only person who puts away a 2 stroke tool running or regular fuel away at the end of a season and fire it up again no worries the next season? 

 

I know it will gum/varnish up the carb but if Ive forgot to drain or run the tank dry its never been an issue firing up again. 

Well it does happen, personally, on my bigger saws, I’ll tip the fuel out on the gravel then start them up and run them out of fuel completely.

 

I've had plenty of clients who have brought out their two strokes to me asking why it won’t start after a winter in a shed, maybe using higher quality oils have something to do with it.

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Slob that I am,( and despite trying to persuade/motivate/encourage staff to drain the multitude of strimmers and push mowers at the end of the season)

I have only very rarely run the 026 (bought in 1997) dry before parking her up, for up to 3 or 4 months, perhaps 6 months bytimes.

Only changed a couple plugs too in all those years.

And still she starts and runs.

I also leave the mix sitting for months, like all the while the saw is unused.

But I use the red Stihl oil and am very particular about the 50:1 ratio.

And in this case my light usage should make stale fuel problems more likely.

But I never experienced any issues, well perhaps the once to be honest, but it cured itself.

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