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4 minutes ago, Stubby said:

How dare you ?  Fuck off ! 🤩 The last word Steve typed was discuss .......🙂

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Whatever can you possibly do nowadays to motivate them,
Lead from the front? couldn’t be more disinterested.
Pay them more? £10, £12 , £15 per hour for labourer ? Makes no difference.
Treat them to a company meal out now n then? Complete waste of time.
Praise them when they don’t cock everything up, don’t ball n shout when they do? Water off a ducks back that’s drowning in a bucket of wd40.
The youth of today and all that.

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Search up a video called motivation by a guy called Dan Pink. I’ve taken relevant points from it and used them to good effect in the past. It’s not a miracle answer but it might make you think outside the box with your staff.

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that is why there is so many polish folk employed in this country they are there waiting for you to open the gate in the morning there work ethic is like it used to be hear 40 years ago  

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The tree business is fucked too many people chasing too little work,colleges turning out far more students than the industry needs all thinking they are bees knees, and no one wanting to do the dirty work get out while you can!!,   And clients who think they can pay nothing for a skilled team and tens of thousands pounds worth of kit 

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Its easy to generalise, I am in my 60s now and people went on about the young ones not wanting work when I was a nipper.

Was the work ethic much different back then ? There was a generation hell bent on strikes and bringing the country to its knees, and they weren't all "youth".

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I believe even the Greeks of Homers day had the same complaints.

And as a very tidy and gifted joiner often stated, "hard work was never easy".

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I think its very easy to underestimate how young people are not physically prepared to do this kind of work. Its something that needs to be built up over time.

I was brought up on a hill farm and was probably better prepared than some, but being honest in my early days of hand felling, where all brash was hand burnt,i flagged a lot sooner than those that had been at it years.

 

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Arb is hard, forestry / hand cutting debateably worse. I've had a few blokes in to burn and stack in the past, and for what i can afford to pay them they are disappointed when shattered physically at the end of the day. Work ethic has changed, a lot of people generally not just youngsters want an easier life that doesn't damage your body - possibly you can't blame them!

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10 minutes ago, Acerforestry said:

Arb is hard, forestry / hand cutting debateably worse. I've had a few blokes in to burn and stack in the past, and for what i can afford to pay them they are disappointed when shattered physically at the end of the day. Work ethic has changed, a lot of people generally not just youngsters want an easier life that doesn't damage your body - possibly you can't blame them!

Perhaps its the money that has an impact on ethic? certainly that is the case in forestry nowadays, hence the race to sit on seats as opposed to throwing a saw around all day.

My sweat is a lot more valuable nowadays than it was years ago.

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