Identify two Cedars please?

[Tom Richards]

First Duggie fir second grand fir ?????

[Squaredy]

1 hour ago, Tom Richards said:

First Duggie fir second grand fir ?????

The owner of the trees has not provided better pics as requested so it may forever remain a mystery.  I was hoping to buy them but I was not convinced they were cedars at all hence the question.  If I hear any more I will update this thread.

[se7enthdevil]

i know i'm better with timber than the trees but i thought they were doug fir and norway spruce myself.