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Well time is a ticking and still not found a key person to join the team so added a little bit more to the day-rate, in the vague hope I can find someone before I've made one!  I would also be interested in climbers with some experience looking for full time or 5 days a week.

Beddow Tree Specialists - Leicestershire

Salary S/E <£180 / day - 5days a week

PAYE at equivalent cost to business

Self Employed or PAYE

We are looking to fill a key role within the team. The requirements below are the ideal however, we would consider development in some areas if the candidate has a suitable attitude. Salary would reflect fulfilment of below criteria.

Qualifications:

·       Ideally an academic qualification so that the scientific side of the job is fully understood.

·       A comprehensive set of NPTC’s. 

·       Trailer license ideally, but driving license a must.

Experience:

·       Capable of undertaking the full range of work including high quality large crown reductions and large dismantling work, pruning fruits trees inc. espalier and topiary. Some forestry and crane work would be ideal.

·       Mewp experience or qualification.

·       Previously ran a crew for at the least 2 years.

·       5years minimum experience in the industry (ideally 3yrs min climbing).

Character:

·       Must be focussed on improvement.

·       Looking to become an integral part of the business.

·       Capable of managing others.

·       Gain enjoyment from development of others.

·       Positive working attitude and would like to work in a positive environment.

·       Honest and loyal.

·       Productive yet safe worker.

Role:

·       To aid with organisation of crews from arrival in the morning.

·       Ability to lead climb on larger jobs (although we have other climbers at this level too).

·       Aid in development of less experienced members of the team.

·       Run a crew.

·       Support with equipment selection, rotation and replacement.

 

Potential development:

·       Sales / management role.

 

To register interest email:  [email protected] or pm.

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Hi Mike,

 

Related, maybe it's time too for the Association to consider re-launching 'R2' (Register of Tree Work Operatives) which provides a structure to record training, quals, skills, competencies, knowledge, experience etc. and a progression route from trainee to proficient operator which is validated.

 

Other employers, who supported 'R2' but were in the minority, had existing "work based development programs" which fed into the process.

 

Regards, n hope you're well (n clearly "business is good" 9_9)

Paul

 

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Sadly, yr asking for three job roles on one salary, I did all the above for certain company's, and if it wasn't a thankless task it was certainly a frustrating and stressful one. You seem sincere in yr company development but if so much needs doing in the here and now - shouldn't you be picking these roles fr yr current staff ? K

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On 22/01/2019 at 19:08, beddowtreeltd said:

Well time is a ticking and still not found a key person to join the team so added a little bit more to the day-rate, in the vague hope I can find someone before I've made one!  I would also be interested in climbers with some experience looking for full time or 5 days a week.

Beddow Tree Specialists - Leicestershire

Salary S/E <£180 / day - 5days a week

 

PAYE at equivalent cost to business

Self Employed or PAYE

 

We are looking to fill a key role within the team. The requirements below are the ideal however, we would consider development in some areas if the candidate has a suitable attitude. Salary would reflect fulfilment of below criteria.

 

Qualifications:

 

·       Ideally an academic qualification so that the scientific side of the job is fully understood.

 

·       A comprehensive set of NPTC’s. 

 

·       Trailer license ideally, but driving license a must.

 

Experience:

 

·       Capable of undertaking the full range of work including high quality large crown reductions and large dismantling work, pruning fruits trees inc. espalier and topiary. Some forestry and crane work would be ideal.

 

·       Mewp experience or qualification.

 

·       Previously ran a crew for at the least 2 years.

 

·       5years minimum experience in the industry (ideally 3yrs min climbing).

 

Character:

 

·       Must be focussed on improvement.

 

·       Looking to become an integral part of the business.

 

·       Capable of managing others.

 

·       Gain enjoyment from development of others.

 

·       Positive working attitude and would like to work in a positive environment.

 

·       Honest and loyal.

 

·       Productive yet safe worker.

 

Role:

 

·       To aid with organisation of crews from arrival in the morning.

 

·       Ability to lead climb on larger jobs (although we have other climbers at this level too).

 

·       Aid in development of less experienced members of the team.

 

·       Run a crew.

 

·       Support with equipment selection, rotation and replacement.

 

Potential development:

 

·       Sales / management role.

 

 

To register interest email:  [email protected] or pm.

Anyone with all what your asking of would be a great motivator and would be working for  their selves and earning a lot more,No offence meant but your asking a hell of a lot.

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If you made it £30k a year full time, vehicle, mobile phone and 6 weeks holidays and a pension.

  You will entice the guys that are doing their own thing with 2 groundies and can’t be arsed with the stress of owning their own business and stuck in the rut of too big for cutting hedges, too small for descent commercial clients.  Guys in their early 40s with 15-20 years experience that will appreciate a good boss.

  

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Ok Re 3 jobs into 1.  Not at all, the role re-training would be a phone call regarding a member of staff who needs development in an area, discussion as to how to develop them internal: put on certain jobs with foreman for some on site time, add easy jobs around day to create time etc. or send out house or I spend time with them.  Equipment issues = "Mike we need this" = discussion as to benefit vs cost = then get it in.  Really it means if foreman wants certain rigging, saws, truck design, chippers, ladders, loaders, unit layout, yard layout, etc they have input.  Which means the efficiency of the business can be improved, this makes days easier, more productive and everyone more secure and happier!

It is not a role to absorb time like running a business does, it would allow someone to switch off at home time, probably a phone call in the car a few nights a week.  

Re "Anyone with those skills would be doing it for themselves" - Not everyone wants to be working all hours / days which is particularly important when establishing a business.  E.g. Some people may have children which they want to have time with and a role where they can be an active part in the business and therefore help create an environment they enjoy, whilst not having to worry about work flow, equipment, quotes, office work, accounts, advertising, managing staff, etc etc.

Re salary I'm easy paye or S/E as stated.  The earnings of £42k s/e would be just under the tax bracket for higher rate earning.  Costs such as running vehicles can be offset against tax and pension development managed by the candidate.  The package can be split in anyway but the ultimate cost per working day will be the same to the business. Certainly your suggestion of £30k + benefits would line up!  Its a choice for the candidate!

 

Re roles for current staff, yes working on it and no there is not a huge amount needs doing but I always aim to continue to improve.  If I can get someone else in to aid with the development it gives another point of view and to sustain work flow I can only be on site 1 day per week.

 

Essentially its a role for someone who wants to have input into shaping their own working environment but doesn't want to run a business.

 

Re the training / Arb Association would be something I would look at, albeit the system I use won't be far off.

 

And yes business is good and getting better although not bigger, hopefully!

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Good points made by all. Anyone who has run their own business in this trade, however big or small, will understand too well that being the gaffer means you are often no longer able to focus on the various practical skills of Arboriculture, because you are so focused on keeping the priced works coming in.

I think the job offer on the table, perhaps along with a little tinkering suggested by Kriss and Stephen is about as near as possible to having your cake and eating it if you truly love the Arb game, want to be paid a proper wage and not just running your own business because of the buzz of chasing the money has perhaps clouded our vision

of why we entered the trade in the first place.

Sounds a very good opportunity to me,

 Good luck 

Cheers

I

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On 25/01/2019 at 16:21, Stephen Blair said:

If you made it £30k a year full time, vehicle, mobile phone and 6 weeks holidays and a pension.

  You will entice the guys that are doing their own thing with 2 groundies and can’t be arsed with the stress of owning their own business and stuck in the rut of too big for cutting hedges, too small for descent commercial clients.  Guys in their early 40s with 15-20 years experience that will appreciate a good boss.

  

Great comment 

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