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1 hour ago, Gabriel82 said:

Unless it's a catalytic wood stove I would never give up ceramic tile stove. 

 

Problem free ,works every time , just brush the chimney well every year. 

 

 

 

 

The same applies to my non catalytic non ceramic stove . DSCF0017.jpg.aa02c03226102b142711ecfd156e016d.jpg

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2 hours ago, Stubby said:

The same applies to my non catalytic non ceramic stove . DSCF0017.jpg.aa02c03226102b142711ecfd156e016d.jpg


it does look good. The problem with my Esse1 is the door and air wash are too close to the top of the stove, causing it to smoke when first lit. Part of the new ecodesign nonesense. Whats the point of a stove that makes the outside air cleaner but causes indoor air pollution?

 

i’ll probably replace it when the right second hand 5 inch flue stove comes up.

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2 hours ago, Muddy42 said:


 

 

i’ll probably replace it when the right second hand 5 inch flue stove comes up.

That Burley has a 6" liner fitting into a 7" clay liner .It only has one control . The air slide at the bottom . A piece of piss to light . I keep the paper liners out of the air fryer . All that grease works a treat as a fire lighter .🙂

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36 minutes ago, Stubby said:

That Burley has a 6" liner fitting into a 7" clay liner .It only has one control . The air slide at the bottom . A piece of piss to light . I keep the paper liners out of the air fryer . All that grease works a treat as a fire lighter .🙂

 

thanks.  Just to be clear on the liner, it sounds like you just have a short section of metal liner poked up the chimney and then its original clay liner thereafter to the top?  Is that right?  A friend has a stove like that and Ive helped them clean it.  It wasn't very dirty.  Its old school, and no doubt the safety police will jump up and down but seems to work ok.

 

That's my issue with modern stoves.  The old ones were simple fires in a box that would cope with a wide range of flue drafts and conditions.  Lots or air in/outflow would overcome any cold air in the flue very quickly.  Modern ecodesign stoves need the conditions of the flue to be just right - lined the whole way to the top, flue insulation, potentially an anti-downdraft cowl to correct for the stoves inadequacies at £300+VAT.  Its all great for the stove installing industry!

 

James at Clearview has written extensively on this topic and performed some side-by-side tests:

 

 

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1 hour ago, Muddy42 said:

Modern ecodesign stoves need the conditions of the flue to be just right - lined the whole way to the top, flue insulation,

Not so with mine, it exhausts into a concrete lined brick chimney, good draw and no noticeable smoke into room. The uninsulated chimney acts as a storage heater when the stove is lit all the time, radiating heat into the room and the upstairs one 24 hours a day.

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I can't believe a wood stove could let smoke in the room... 

 

A natural draft chimney must have a draft at all times.

 

And only regulate it by closing the ash or firebox doors... 

 

At least this is what I have... 

 

And I clean the chimney  every spring or autumn...

 

Never failed me so far, not even at minus 18-20 Celcius or in a snow blizzard that almost buried/blocked  me in the house...

 

I did kept the fire lit all that time/few days of unknown weather ...

3 hours ago, openspaceman said:

Not so with mine, it exhausts into a concrete lined brick chimney, good draw and no noticeable smoke into room. The uninsulated chimney acts as a storage heater when the stove is lit all the time, radiating heat into the room and the upstairs one 24 hours a day.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Muddy42 said:

 

thanks.  Just to be clear on the liner, it sounds like you just have a short section of metal liner poked up the chimney and then its original clay liner thereafter to the top?  Is that right?  

 

 

Nope . The original 7" clay liner is still in place and the 6" stainless liner fits snugly inside that and goes all the way up to the stack with the cowl on top . So effectively double lined . Also any cavities as you come down and get near the register plate are filled with vermiculite beads .  

Posted
34 minutes ago, Gabriel82 said:

I can't believe a wood stove could let smoke in the room... 

 

A natural draft chimney must have a draft at all time

 

 

Mine does not let smoke into the room . There is one hell of a draw on my chimney . It pulls like a train ! 😀

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