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Would you support a stove exchange/scrappage scheme?

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As seems to be the general message in one of our earlier posts, many older stoves will last decades before the body gives in and they need replaced. Along the way there will be small replacement parts required but nothing major. So, this prompts the questions.....

 

Would you support a government backed stove exchange scheme, allowing those with older (less efficient stoves) to replace them with more efficient stoves with lower emissions?

 

The scheme would be something along the lines of the car scrappage scheme, you receive a discount on the cost of a new stove when you replace an older less efficient machine.

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Nope

As with cars, the energy (emissions) required to make new is pretty horrendous. Don't know the figure for stoves but for cars it's about a third of its total co2 emissions are just in the making of it. Car scrappage scheme wasn't about emissions, just economy boosting really, and now everyone's stuck with poncy cars they can't fix with totally made up emissions stats.

Anyways, if people have well made old stoves that they operate correctly let them be. I'd be looking at replacing oil gas coal central heating if emissions are what get you going

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Would I support it, in that if I had an old stove I was happy with would I swap it for a new one? Only if :

1. The financial assistance made the swap very painless

2. Legal changes made my old stove non viable/ would soon make it non viable.

3. I heated very significantly with wood and I was sure a modern stove would cut consumption and make life easier.

 

in other words the pay back still needs to be there.  If we think of the cost of a new stove, and the cost of install ( inspection of current flue and BC sign off as a minimum I guess) we are likely approaching a grand.  The scrappage assistance is going to have to be a large part of that to make me swap for purely autruistic reasons.

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Tricky one. Nice idea but manufacturers fudge the numbers at times. Our current stove was supposedly very efficient but the reality proved very different. We have a Saey Scope and it was the most efficient room sealed stove available at the time. In reality it has not proved clean burning so I very much doubt it has got near it's claimed efficiency. In the past we have used Woodwarm stoves which have worked far better yet supposedly less efficient. 

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would you support other tax payers paying for your new stove..  would you support tax payers subsidizing those who sell woodburning stoves...

 

I've an idea,    we sell stoves that are better than the old ones.. does your old stove need replacing...

 

buy our brand new better stoves without any help from the tax payer....

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Do I deduce the WoodStove market has reached saturation/died a death/requires resurrection then?

If it moves...

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Would I support tax payers paying (partly) for my new stove?  Yes.  If my older stove is fine I have no (strong) incentive to change, but government wants me to for improvement of air quality.  Gov wants it, gov helps pay.  The principle of differing taxation or subsidy to encourage/discourage behaviour is used all the time, why not stoves?  If it can be done in practice.  Big if.

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