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On 21/03/2018 at 20:52, Woodwanter said:

Hire a cone splitter on a 360 - would soon split that up?

I tried fitting a cone splitter on my posthole digger on the front of the Matbro but it was not successful. 

(I blame the driver¬)  In reality I used an old track motor from another swing shovel and it may have seen better days

 

Either the hydraulic motor was tired or the cone was not good enough.  I do have a 15 ton 360 so it would still be an option as I was impressed with some youtube videos.

 

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23 hours ago, FJMatt said:

Oooooohh 2hrs 

And look at the feeling of well being

(that might be the pain killers) :D

Looking forward to option two 👍 

I'm still hurting!

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26 minutes ago, Billhook said:

I tried fitting a cone splitter on my posthole digger on the front of the Matbro but it was not successful. 

(I blame the driver¬)  In reality I used an old track motor from another swing shovel and it may have seen better days

 

Either the hydraulic motor was tired or the cone was not good enough.  I do have a 15 ton 360 so it would still be an option as I was impressed with some youtube videos.

 

 Mine is on a 7.5 t and works very well. You need the gear box to be fitted to something to stop it turning!

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9 hours ago, Woodwanter said:

 Mine is on a 7.5 t and works very well. You need the gear box to be fitted to something to stop it turning!

That was not the problem as it stopped turning when it was on the ground.  The cone went in to the log and then there was not enough power to drive it in further, or it started to bore a hole rather than go in further to split it.

I lifted it up to spin it to try and and release the log by reversing the cone.  Hoping to make the log hit another log to let it lose its grip!

Either a more powerful hydraulic motor,  a different cone, or I need to attack the log from one end or in a different way but I had other things to do at the time and I will experiment more when the weather improves.

It did split a more even, knot free log about 10 inches diameter but I can easily put that through the Palax in no time at all.

I need one to split large tree trunks

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10 hours ago, Billhook said:

 

My Palax will only deal with 12 inch through the splitter and 10 inch through the circular saw.  Again quite honestly I would not want to be loading 20 inch diameter logs into a processor hopper all day as they are bloody heavy.

Agreed but just knock them down to manageable sized lumps with a chainsaw. Get the rings on edge and use the chainsaw ripping with the grain (noodling) you cut very quickly like this. I do this day in day out on site. I do contract firewood processing and almost never leave site with any oversized rejects. Customers are hesitant for me start  breaking large pieces down with the saw but when they see home many logs they end up with putting rings or broken down rings through the processor there are no complaints.

 

Very tempting to over complicate things but sometime the kiss principle fits best IME

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On 23/03/2018 at 07:43, Woodworks said:

Agreed but just knock them down to manageable sized lumps with a chainsaw. Get the rings on edge and use the chainsaw ripping with the grain (noodling) you cut very quickly like this. I do this day in day out on site. I do contract firewood processing and almost never leave site with any oversized rejects. Customers are hesitant for me start  breaking large pieces down with the saw but when they see home many logs they end up with putting rings or broken down rings through the processor there are no complaints.

 

Very tempting to over complicate things but sometime the kiss principle fits best IME

I am sixty five years old and it sounds as though you are nearer thirty five!

" Just knock them down to size with a chainsaw" means bending down tilting them on edge, wedging them somehow so they do not move followed by more chainsawing whilst bending followed by humping the pieces into the Palax hopper.  It is the bending and lifting all day long that is so hard as you age.

I have the lifting and sawing machinery with the Teleporter and the Lucas Mill, neither requires any lifting.

I have a few awkward logs in the yard which are not worth putting through the Lucas and I just borrowed this blacksmith built splitter to see how it performed.

It was harder work than I thought and I will not be building on like it

 

However I will have a go at building a horizontal splitter to fit on the Teleporter backplate like this one

 

 

Of course he needs to split it over a box or crate!

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31 minutes ago, Billhook said:

I am sixty five years old and it sounds as though you are nearer thirty five!

" Just knock them down to size with a chainsaw" means bending down tilting them on edge, wedging them somehow so they do not move followed by more chainsawing whilst bending followed by humping the pieces into the Palax hopper.  It is the bending and lifting all day long that is so hard as you age.

 

 

 

Fair enough. Didn't know your age but I would love to be 35 again just approaching 50

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Yes it is slow and low down, powerful though.  Can you fit a mid hight table? Cut the rings onto a trailer and slide them off onto the  table so no lifting

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