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Drying Firewood when RHI payments stop.

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'Drax' has provided the best name for a power station EVER.  Clearly it was wasted as a village name.

 

 

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Not to be mistaken for 'dracks', which are all those little tiny shards of plastic you see scattered about on the ground after a crash test or road accident.

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2 hours ago, Khriss said:

Ummmm- yr not far wrong with that supposition mate , Drax station uses imported N.American wood pellets for bio-electric generation , K

Well there you go then!

 

i wonder what the full carbon footprint of the power that came out of there was with that info!?

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So it appears that some serious producers like gdh and Ash plan to continue drying after their 20 year term expires.

Long before this happens they probably know their boilers will fail due to internal corrosion, but I expect they except that overhead.   

 

The cost of a large scale naturally air dried operation is prohibitive, even though a Kiln Drying installation with the infrastructure is well over 50K using a gasification  log boiler, nearer 100K using chip.

 

The single most financially deciding factor is not having to buy stock in advance.

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4 hours ago, arboriculturist said:

So it appears that some serious producers like gdh and Ash plan to continue drying after their 20 year term expires.

Long before this happens they probably know their boilers will fail due to internal corrosion, but I expect they except that overhead.   

 

The cost of a large scale naturally air dried operation is prohibitive, even though a Kiln Drying installation with the infrastructure is well over 50K using a gasification  log boiler, nearer 100K using chip.

 

The single most financially deciding factor is not having to buy stock in advance.

I bought and fitted my second 130kw boiler for £16k. £1k of that being RHI metre and sensors. That kiln can dry 2000 cubic metres a year flat out.

yes your right about the boilers, I’m giving mine 10-15 years max! 

The RHI was EU funded but wonder how much the UK government will get back in Tax as the RHI payments go as income on your accounts so will incur corporation tax if you’ve made a profit. 

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  23 hours ago, FJMatt said: Here's fan details Steve 
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Edited with the crucial step added!

 

If I read that correctly at 0.79 Amps at 50Hz:

0.79 x 230V

 = 0.182 Kw

0.182 x £0.15 (cost of 1KwH of electricity)

 =2.7p per hour

0.027 x 8766 (hours in a year)

 =£237

If you have 3 fans:

 =£711

 


Not too bad really. So looking at no more than £5 per cube per year to run the kiln at capacity.

Entirely feasible.

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6 hours ago, arboriculturist said:

So it appears that some serious producers like gdh and Ash plan to continue drying after their 20 year term expires.

Long before this happens they probably know their boilers will fail due to internal corrosion, but I expect they except that overhead.   

 

The cost of a large scale naturally air dried operation is prohibitive, even though a Kiln Drying installation with the infrastructure is well over 50K using a gasification  log boiler, nearer 100K using chip.

 

The single most financially deciding factor is not having to buy stock in advance.

Those that got in early should pay for their outlay in 2-5 yrs if they did it right, having to replace bits in yr 15 shouldn't be a concern, except if you end up with a triggers broom then you will loose RHI as orgional boiler is no longer!

 

 

2 hours ago, ash_smith123 said:

I bought and fitted my second 130kw boiler for £16k. £1k of that being RHI metre and sensors. That kiln can dry 2000 cubic metres a year flat out.

yes your right about the boilers, I’m giving mine 10-15 years max! 

The RHI was EU funded but wonder how much the UK government will get back in Tax as the RHI payments go as income on your accounts so will incur corporation tax if you’ve made a profit. 

 

Glen farrow or dragon?

 

 

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1 hour ago, Woodwanter said:

Those that got in early should pay for their outlay in 2-5 yrs if they did it right, having to replace bits in yr 15 shouldn't be a concern, except if you end up with a triggers broom then you will loose RHI as orgional boiler is no longer!

 

 

 

Glen farrow or dragon?

 

 

A ECO Angus, glen farrow’s are £40k plus and you would need a bit more than a cube a day to run it! 

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10 hours ago, ash_smith123 said:

A ECO Angus, glen farrow’s are £40k plus and you would need a bit more than a cube a day to run it! 

Those ECO Angus are nice compact units, whereas the GF is a lumbering inefficient beast. Unfortunately not everyone realises until they have shelled out their hard earnt cash.

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