Zig zag or spiderjack?

[stihlmadasever]

2 hours ago, Steve Bullman said:

That happened to me and it did make me lose confidence in it considerably.  The zigzag came out shortly after though and I never looked back.  You still have to be careful with the zigzag though, specially around ivy 

Whats the issue with zz and ivy steve?

Never had a problem doin ivy covered trees with mine so far

[Steve Bullman]

Had it on a few occasions when a bunch of ivy had come off and sat straight in top of the zigzag 

[timbernut]

Thanks Wes, it was the bulkyness puttin me off, but now I've handled it a bit it feels ok though not used it yet. It was that or a zigzag and not bothered by the zz recall as friend has mk3 and loves it. It's more that when using LJ I always was tempted t use thumb like brake on descents and felt SJ would suit.
I've taken on board that it's not great for small trees so will keep a shorter rope with LJ for conny hedges etc. The slack tending on the LJ is not so good except when lots of rope beneath it.
Hav a cocoon but will have to start installing from the ground which I haven't tried as always got in a pickle tryin it with old type cambium saver[emoji15]
Incidentally does anyone know a good splicer in Norfolk who could do me a new loop for the cocoon with cable in it as it often catches on retrieval,
Thanks john