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7 hours ago, spuddog0507 said:

I am with you on this one Gary , some climbers think they are the Bs n Es and same as yourself in my third decade now, I have worked with quite a few climbers over the years OK some have been OK ,some better than others and some others ,well what can I say, my granny would of been better, in any job qualifications are one thing but experience speaks so much louder, it takes many years to gain that experience, but every now and then we come across a climber that is different, a out 3 yrs ago I had a lad for several jobs I wished I had come across him a few years before but unfortunately he moved to france. About a yr ago came across a young lad with his head screwed on the right way, he is not a good climber, he is what every one would look for, he is safe ,efficient and very well mannered with customers he has a very mature head on young shoulders very rare in this day and age.

The young lads coming through today like the starter of this thread how are they to gain confidence in what they do if the team leader slates them and they get paid crap money ?, I don't knoiw what people expect but you have to remember we all have to start some where, just ask yourself what where you like 1 yr in ? ? ?,

 New groundie £70-80 a day if he is OK £90-100 and if he is up to your spec may be a bit more , and its like a lot of other things in life you get what you pay for , I have seen adds on here for brash monkeys ,em, and they wounder why they can't get any one to reply , personally I wouldn't dream of asking for staff in that manor , as I just see that as a non starter.

You know the saying is "the bee's knees" don't you? Not important of course.

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1 minute ago, Joe Newton said:


doubt your his type, you sound like ni choir boy.

We would be on different teams but I have worked with a lot like him who had some very funny stories to tell. I used to work with a very homophobic Zimbabwean twat who was constantly needling a very camp old dealer from Brum. He put the Zimbabwean bloke very nicely in his place by saying, after the umpteenth accusation of his being a pervert, " I might be a pervert but I still wouldn't shag you." :laugh1:

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