Sorbus torminalis?

[daveindales]

Not a tree I see very often in the Yorkshire Dales, but am I right in thinking this is Sorbus torminalis? Tree was about 50ft high, rough bark on lower bole.

 

 

[daltontrees]

Personally I don't think it is torminalis, which is much more angular. But it's Sorbus all right. In the UK there's all sorts of hybrids and variations on what looks a bit like a Swedish Whitebeam. Yours could be one of these, related to Bastard Service (thuringiaca) or an exciting local hybrid/subspecies. E.g. up here we have S. arranensis and in Irelan there's S. hibernica. All looking abit like this, not quite full-on Swedish indentations.

 

Anyone else got any ideas?

[Marula]

Service Tree of Fontainebleu, they're more commonly found up in Yorkshire than a service tree I would think.

[Marula]

Could also be a cliff white beam, but most likely a hybrid as Daltontrees said.

[daveindales]

Defiantly not Swedish whitebeam. I will take a photo of the tree next week. Might help a bit. There's a couple of them growing in an old Victorian garden.

[Marula]

So my two suggestions are ruled out?[emoji23][emoji1360] I agree it definitely isn't a Swedish white beam.

[daltontrees]

Thee service tree of fontainbleau (Sorbus latifolia) seems as good a guess as any. If anyone's in doubt about how hard it is to pin down Sorbus in the UK, google it. People have spent their whole lives trying to categorise the genus.

 

Also, it cna be dangerous trying to identify off just a few leaves, as leaf shape can and often will change throughout a tree throughout its life.

[wills-mill]

That's very close to the Wild Service down here. I'll dig out some photos later. W

[wills-mill]