excavator advise

[simonm]

Looking at excavators around 10 ton mark that would be capable of running a mulching head, flail, shear etc, are the mulching heads just plug & play or do different machines have higher flow rates for various attachments? 

[justinkingwell]

Hyundai or Takeuchi are your two makes with the oil and pressure required. They also have all the pipework that you need - already fitted and this will save you money when you fit your attachments. Here is Matt Bell's machine, that we recently supplied a Serrat head for. It is a very productive unit. 

[Ronald]

Takeuchi excavators are know for their Hydraulic power!

 

Various attachement have different flow's, so it is good to check the requirement of the attachements.

 

Are you still in need for attachements? we, www.herder.nl have several attachments in our product range. our UK dealer, DOW (http://www.woodfuelmachinery.co.uk/ ) will be on the CONFOR exhibition and showing/demonstrating a tree shear and a excavator mounted stumpcutter.

[LGP Eddie]

I think you perhaps need to rewind a bit and give some idea what you're looking for in terms of a base carrier? 

You looking to go new or used? Reduced tailswing or full size machine?

 

You use Mulching Head and Flail together in your question, are you looking to Mulch standing material down to the floor and incorporate it or simply Flail scrub and vegetation.

 

Regarding manufacturers, all will do the task in mind and pretty much without exception they will all come with the pipework required these days as manufacturers are catching up to the requirements of end users.

 

10 tonne is more of an emerging class led by manufacturers simply having to beef up 8 tonne machines to cope with user demands.

They have eaten a huge slice of what used to be 13 tonne machine class, and 13 tonne machines have jumped to 15 tonne plus in a similar fashion.

 

You would probably be stunned what one of the latest 6 tonne class machines can achieve now, such is progress.

 

There's an awful lot to consider when making the purchase of the carrier machine and most come back to who is local that gives good service?

 

 

Eddie.

[simonm]

11 hours ago, justinkingwell said:

Hyundai or Takeuchi are your two makes with the oil and pressure required. They also have all the pipework that you need - already fitted and this will save you money when you fit your attachments. Here is Matt Bell's machine, that we recently supplied a Serrat head for. It is a very productive unit. 

Why do some have higher flow rates than others? Is there no modifications required at all with regards to running implements?

 

[simonm]

2 hours ago, LGP Eddie said:

I think you perhaps need to rewind a bit and give some idea what you're looking for in terms of a base carrier? 

You looking to go new or used? Reduced tailswing or full size machine?

 

You use Mulching Head and Flail together in your question, are you looking to Mulch standing material down to the floor and incorporate it or simply Flail scrub and vegetation.

 

Regarding manufacturers, all will do the task in mind and pretty much without exception they will all come with the pipework required these days as manufacturers are catching up to the requirements of end users.

 

10 tonne is more of an emerging class led by manufacturers simply having to beef up 8 tonne machines to cope with user demands.

They have eaten a huge slice of what used to be 13 tonne machine class, and 13 tonne machines have jumped to 15 tonne plus in a similar fashion.

 

You would probably be stunned what one of the latest 6 tonne class machines can achieve now, such is progress.

 

There's an awful lot to consider when making the purchase of the carrier machine and most come back to who is local that gives good service?

 

 

Eddie.

Hi Eddie

As you can guess i am a bit green when it comes to diggers, & to be honest i am not sure what i want in a machine! as a start up i was hoping the machine to be a jack of all trades as in flailing brambles etc a shear to bring smallish - medium sized trees down & mulcher to smash it up either standing or on the ground.

Would a reduced swing machine be a better option for working in tighter spaces? or would this restrict what the machine could grip when reaching out? i am working on the basis that a reduced swing wouldn't have as much to counterbalance the head, is this wrong??

 

[digaholedumper]

Have a look at Wacker Neuson, they do a 8.3 & 9.5 ton machine with double hyd lines allready fitted, the oil flow is also very good, their old model 8003 ( 8.5 ton ) had high flow aux hydraulics as standard giving well over 100 lpm, oil flow & system pressure are linked on that sized machine & the more pressure you require the more flow you will lose , it is worth speaking to a specialist dealer before you do anything, just for the record we have a new 6ft hammer flail for sale & it would suit a 8 - 9 ton digger, it requires 80 - 90 lpm .

 

[simonm]

21 hours ago, digaholedumper said:

Have a look at Wacker Neuson, they do a 8.3 & 9.5 ton machine with double hyd lines allready fitted, the oil flow is also very good, their old model 8003 ( 8.5 ton ) had high flow aux hydraulics as standard giving well over 100 lpm, oil flow & system pressure are linked on that sized machine & the more pressure you require the more flow you will lose , it is worth speaking to a specialist

21 hours ago, digaholedumper said:

Have a look at Wacker Neuson, they do a 8.3 & 9.5 ton machine with double hyd lines allready fitted, the oil flow is also very good, their old model 8003 ( 8.5 ton ) had high flow aux hydraulics as standard giving well over 100 lpm, oil flow & system pressure are linked on that sized machine & the more pressure you require the more flow you will lose , it is worth speaking to a specialist dealer before you do anything, just for the record we have a new 6ft hammer flail for sale & it would suit a 8 - 9 ton digger, it requires 80 - 90 lpm .

 

dealer before you do anything, just for the record we have a new 6ft hammer flail for sale & it would suit a 8 - 9 ton digger, it requires 80 - 90 lpm .

 

What machine are you running? do you keep it busy?

[digaholedumper]

19 hours ago, simonm said:

What machine are you running? do you keep it busy?

We are involved with Wacker Neuson as a dealer & have had 1st hand experience with the brand since 2005, the product is smack on & very very well built, offering 3 year warranty on all their mobile kit .

[aspenarb]

Try before you buy Simon, I would suggest hiring  or at the very least trialling a machine with attachments for a few days.There is a big difference using a 360 with a flail vs a mulcher, almost all machines will run a flail with some degree of success but a mulching head will need a few more HP behind it, flow rates are meaningless without the HP to back them up and most 8/10 ton machines run in the fifty to seventy HP bracket. Take off pumping losses at the lions share of 25% plus twenty HP for just the machine and there is not a lot of poke left for a mulcher. There is a very good reason Justin runs a bigger 360 with a relatively small mulching head., it has the power and the flow rate.to do the job.

 

Bob