Shouldn't Firemen have basic felling training?

[Luckyeleven]

The Pompier are jack of all trades, firemen, paramedics and also by the whole part timers.

Most will probably have cut their own firewood for years thus qualified by not dying in a wood.

Its the same with the Commune workers, they cut trees, prune trees, plant trees, fix the roads and local buildings.

I have been trying to get my name in with them for a few years but it all seems to be wrapped up with Jean Pierre that went to school with the friend of my uncles nephews sister in laws mum.

Bon courage

Darren:confused1:

 

Again the plot thickens, these were pompiers marins, (military) and most definitely better at their day job.

As for the commune workers, prune is a strong word

[Mark Bolam]

Don't really want to say mate.

 

 

Understood.

The MOD are definitely into cost saving these days.

 

 

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[spuddog0507]

Hi all as for the original point of this thread for firemen to have NPTC chainsaw tickets would be expensive for the authorities as the original point was sorting a windblown hung up tree out, cant just do that on a basic cs30/31 ticket relivent training would be cs30/31 first £750 then cs32 £450-500 then cs34/35 £450-500,£1750 in training + boots trousers helmet & gloves another £200-£250 total so far £2000 then 3 shifts doing the above so I would say about £5000 per man in training and kit, easier and far cheaper to have a approved contractor data base across the country with lads who are dealing with this sort of thing on a regular basis,and just out of interest how many guys on here have cs34/35 singular and multiple windblown tickets.

[petestarbuck]

I started to do a bit of training with the local specialist rescue team a while back. I was gonna put myself in a hard to reach part of a tree and they were gonna see if they could get to me for a live rescue using their rope access techniques. Pretty good idea I thought. Got my line into a good anchor, just about to start going up when they got a call, to a bloke that had felled a tree wrong and was stuck under it. Apparently that was their first tree related job in the 10 yrs the srt had been set up. Typical

 

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[Scottie88]

Prepare and agree emergency treework and Emergency Tree Operations. I hold these as an Arborist and didnt do the tickets for a laugh. Its part of my job. And many other arbs.

I dont agree with firefighters getting basic felling quals.

 

As previously stated, we'll deal with the trees while the firefighters put out the fires.

 

Scott

[Olliebradbury]

I'm not suggesting firefighters should have tree qualifications to deal with any old windblown trees on roadways,..

 

I'm suggesting they have knowledge to be able to break down a broadleaf crown should for example a beech collapse on a car with passengers inside. Where time is of the essence and unfortunately arb trucks don't have blue lights and sirens

[petestarbuck]

I agree ollie, I'm a retained firefighter and run my own arb outfit. It's a bit shortsighted of the previous post to say let fire brigade only deal with fires. We deal with so many different incidents and are the publics first contact when the **** hits the fan! There is scope for training the fire brigade to deal with trees, but I don't think the powers that be will pay for it. I'm often asked to provide input on training courses on what constitutes a sound tree for an anchor, what to look for on trees for disease etc, but it's all unofficial. It would definitely pay for the specialist rescue teams to have more tree knowledge for sure

 

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[Luckyeleven]

I think a photocopy of a select few pages from 'to fell a tree' would do wonders....

[Mick Dempsey]

It's a fair question, as stated the pompiers here are usually fairly competent with "rural skills"

Surely a two day course in basic bucking/compression/chainsaw basics would help the urban firemen, keep them off the porn for a bit anyways.

[Luckyeleven]

Oxfordshire firefighters asked to chainsaw fallen trees in the road (From Bicester Advertiser)