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I was watching this video......

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...of a guy dismantling a pole, top down ing, or whatever we want to call it, and he had a flip line and his main climbing line. He used some kind of pulley system on his main line so once he had dropped a section he disconnected his flip, dropped on his main line, reconnected his flip, ascended a foot or so, then pulled another line and his pulley'd main line released and dropped to him. He then re attached it, as one would a secondary line, took off another section and repeated the whole process. Looked very cool but I have never seen it done like that over here.

Is this normal practice for you more experienced peeps? and if so what pulley/kit do you use for the secondary/main line?


The video if you want to see what I'm babbling about is here:

and to save time the best example is at 16:40

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You can also do this using a running bowline on a prussik. Leave a long tail on the bowline then when you have come down on it using the prussik wiggle the long tail and the running bowline loop will become loose and slide down the pole. I probably haven't explained it very well!


You have explained it perfectly Climber85, I did wonder if he even had a pulley on there, but I think he has. I think I'll try it your way and see how I go. thanks fella :thumbup1:

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Thanks Treequip, I know about SRT but hadn't made the connection to this :) Good call thanks :biggrin:


If your interest is that particular technique its a retrievable top anchor or tie in point (TIP), specifically, that technique is a stem choker.


It can be rigged with a biner or even a micro pulley to take a bit of the drag out of the retrieve.


If you use hardware pay attention to biner orientation (gate outward)

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It looks like he's using a petzl croll type thing on his safety line for going up and then at the top changes over to a petzl rig or ID

This is what i use , especially on fir/pine trees.


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You can achieve the same thing on ddrt using a choker with 2 rings on it around the stem.

That can be moved down by flipping your rope to tie in again at waist level


I was going to write that :001_tongue:

I've tried it with a choking simple ring-ring saver but is very limited.

That belay/descend kit is awesome but for "part time" works, once in awhile, I use a running bowline or a alpine butterfly+binner to choke the rope SRT mode and a HMS biner with munter hitch as descender (with a friction hitch as backup).

I need a 8 or a rope wrench:blushing:

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