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  2. tree-fancier123

    Facebook video. Graphic accident

    GnarlyOak says he uses only 10 to 15% diameter sapwood cuts in the sides - others take a third of the diameter, wedging if necessary extract from another thread on felling leaners and leaning stems "Ah yes. That brings back one heck of a story. The Coos Bay cut was first described to me by Mike Davis, RIP, yes the M. Davis in High climbers. The way Mike described it to me then is the way I've used the cut since. With minor varients to suit the situation, of course. When Mike was first describing the Coos's Bay cut to me, back in 1986 at the Golden West Hotel Saloon, I was astounded by the shear "against the grain methodology" I thought to myself, "He can't be serious." Dave Deconti was present during Mikes description and we both exchanged eye contact a number of times in disbelief of what Mike was telling us. I had to ask Mike a couple of times just to get it straight without any misunderstanding. Needless to say I was still skeptical even after 20 Budwisers. When I went to work for Pete Benedeti in 89 I watched Raymond Bates use the cut exactly as Mike described it. The tree was a redwood, heavy leaner over the county road. The county road crew closed the road off and in three cuts, less than one minute, that tree floped across the pavement and was doing the dying quivers. Even at that I never attempted to use the Coos Bay. I was still too skeptical. A few years later, round about 92 or so, I was working in Dos Rios for Homer Helms. Dos Rios is rattle snake, bald face hornet infested hell hole I'll never forget. Well the Bullbuck on that harvest plan awarded me a strip on a big slide that covered a few acres of the mountain. The Bullbuck said he liked me. Most the trees on that strip toppled when the the hill side slipped out, I guessed about 10 years before my arrival, the downed trees were all pretty well rotten. Now the trees left standing, if you want to call it that, were all heavy leaners, no, no hangers, like holding out your arm, Douglas Fir averaging about a thousand foot apiece. Scratch your head in wonder thinking about the forces on the roots holding them. It was impossible to fall to a lead. Every tree leaned a different way, over one another and over bad ground. I walk through those trees two times without even tugging on the pull rope. Finally when I came back to where I started, I thought about what Mike told me, and I remembered how Raymond Bates flopped that redwood in just three cuts. I was thinking, "Man, I'm gonna have one of these trees barber chair and lose my saw and possibly my life." I looked across the hillside, up and down and thought, "I'm not walking through this again. I'm gonna just start cutting the way Mike told me. F it." So I tugged on that pull rope and brought life into a sawing machine that was hell bent for destruction. Knees knocking and sweat pouring I cut one side of the trunk, better than a third, socked a wedge in, and cut the other side the same, then hit the back!!! The sound of wood pulling from the stump ecohed across the caynon and the tree launched itself into the worse lay you could imagine. Fortunatly it was Doug Fir, and tough, and it took the hit. SOB to buck. Would of been easier if it broke clean. No such luck. So, OK! That was the first one. So far so good. I have couple dozen more. About 4 o'clock that afternoon I had the last of the outlaws apprehenced and bucked them all, honest to God. I felt like a pro. Oh, yeah. It was late in the day for a timber faller to walk out of the woods. Most the others were out of there by 1 oclock and home by the time I quit. I wanted to finish that strip. I didn't want to go back to it in the morning. My next strip was steep ground but the trees stood fare and straight, and was going to be a heck of a lot easier. I suppose had I learned the Coos Bay from someone else, like yourselves, I would have done it that way. I recall when the discussion about the Coos bay came up here at the house the description was different than what I have used and wrote about. I found it interesting the varients of methods to solve a common problem. And I knew one day someone here would call me on it. Thanks, Burnam. Since using the Coos' Bay on that God awful strip in Dos Rios I started using it in the trees to launch big, heavy, hanging, limbs and spars. It works great. It'll pull wood, generally out of the stub,or stump, but it solves the issues of getting a saw stuck in a cut by undercutting a heavily compress portion of a stem or trunk. Non-directional. Only good for flopping. Varients? Yes! Even though a tree with heavy head lean,,, it can also favor one side. Cut that side first, better than a third, set a wedge. Cut the other side. Then bore into the holding wood, and threat it like you would with a conventional face and bore cut to trip. Heavy head leaners are a Son of a Bitch. Anybody that's been in the business for long can attest to it. Even treated with the best of your knowledge and skill they can still get you. Always treat them with the utmost respect and have a clear and safe way out of there. Up in the tree? Always excute the cut from above. Thank you Mike Davis for the knowledge. RIP, 2003'" https://www.masterblasterhome.com/showthread.php?9410-Beranek-s-Coos-Bay-felling-cut-vs-Burnham-s
  3. Wonky

    Estimated quantity of logs from tree sugury

    Since this morn,/ afternoon and I asked simple questions , like who, how many guys and how many quotes etc. the op has not replied?? I go out for a few beers,,alright a skin full of beer after all its xmass partying time, and get back to all this,,,and still the op has not replied. my guess he’s just stirring up a hornets nest. Or embarrassed to reply cheers, sleep well cos I will.😴
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  5. monkeybusiness

    Valtra N92

    Are you going to do much road work with it? You could ballast the wheels with water too.
  6. spuddog0507

    Felling advice required

    where is AB Trees based ??? could help if not fare away,
  7. brynseiri

    Npors vs Cpcs Excavator

    I did my NPORS 360 and 180 in 2005, via our local agricultural training board. At the time I was only very young, and the general opinion of NPORS was they were just a box ticking exrcise to make farmers health and safety compliant. It was a bit Mickey Mouse, to do the course I had to have a reference from my mother as she owned the family farm to say I'd been using such equipment for 2 years at least. At the time fencers and forestry type companies were happy with NPORS, but forget any construction companies. Then came the financial crash, digger drivers laid off all over, then a couple of years ago the construction got busy again and there's a shortage of 360 drivers, so I guess everyone including citb accepting NPORS nowadays is answering the operator shortage, as like I said, big names like laings, hansons, mcalpines carillion etc (all gone now anyway) used to laugh at NPORS and say no way, come back with citb if you want a job.
  8. PeteB

    chipper shute moving

    GreenMech chutes still unbolt to fold over the bonnet. Take a look and give the picture to your engineering friend. That would make it easier to store!
  9. Big J

    Jokes???

    Got in trouble first day in my new job as a roofer when I was caught masturbating. It's OK though. The Boss said I can wipe the slate clean.
  10. Sheepy

    Freelancer available for any kind of work. Try me?

    Ever done any planting? Cheers
  11. Jacktrades

    Climbers needed Devon, Somerset, Dorset, Hampshire

    Hi, What's the starting salary for a climber? Cheers
  12. Could your mate bag the minis up in small burnable net bags? easier to feed bags to a stove rather than hurling loose bucket loads at the open stove from the middle of the room
  13. Ratman

    Whats the weather like near you?

    [emoji849] never happy! [emoji39]
  14. As above looking to hire a tracked barrow/ dumper, struggling to find any available does anyone on here have one for hire ? Cheers
  15. trigger_andy

    Blade guide options for homebuilt mill....

    Super impressive! Do you think you'll attain the accuracy of a Wood-Mizer or Norwood?
  16. Bustergasket

    Splitta 360’s For sale

    I was up at fuelwood today picking up some parts and saw they have two Splitta 360’s which have come in as PX, i heard they were coming in when i was up there last week, but to see them in the flesh have to say they looked really tidy and have not done much work , Pete said it was ok to take some pics and i thought someone on here may benefit, i think there is lots of options like power packs and bagging shutes, one had an infeed conveyor [emoji106]
  17. bigtreedon

    Protos Intergral Comms performance

    Helpfull as ever
  18. maybelateron

    Rope for zigzag

    Agreed, I use Tachyon and really happy with it.
  19. AJStrees

    Root Radar

    Sounds good. I work in East Grinstead in West Sussex
  20. trigger_andy

    Starting a new venture

    Are you asking about just buying the tree and removing everything including the timer you'd mill for yourself on location? Or Milling for the customer and also removing all the waste as well? Maybe clear to others but very confusing to me.
  21. Mark J

    Favourite Christmas song.

    I'm also ashamed to say that I think this is canny mint.
  22. Half of it is advertising. i’ll give it miss
  23. woody paul

    the 'todays job' thread

    This morning job log up trees sectional felled yesterday, took old girl out for a run forgot how much I love at saw.
  24. Harry_L

    Woodland price???

    Nice one, thanks
  25. Gnarlyoak

    Thermal gloves/liner recommendations

    Best glove combo that I've tried so far is Rab Merino Wool base layer with Towa Powergrab thermo as top layer glove. Still just about functionable whilst climbing but you do lose a degree of dexterity & occasionally fumble a bit with ropes & 'biners. Though pretty good on the ground. Still gets pretty brutal on the hands when they get wet though, for me anyway. Also tried nitrile & silk base layers. Nitrile absolutely pants! Just seem to wick away any heat in a nano second wet or dry! Silk not too bad if temp is in single digits and dry, not so good when its cooler or wet!! Have tried Pfanner Ice Grip as a top layer, but these are not so good in climbing scenario, seem lose too much manual dexterity & feels like I've got sausages for fingers when trying to work 'biners. Not too bad on the ground, but again hands begin to suffer pretty badly once they get wet. Have also gone down the supplement route in conjunction with different glove combos, been taking Ginkgo for just over a month now with no discernible positive effect that I'm able to gauge thus far. Have just started taking Turmeric as well now in addition to the Ginkgo. Have also just got a pair of Stihl function Thermogrip gloves as an alternative top layer, not had a chance to use them yet, but construction wise they feel a bit like an "in between" the Towa & Pfanner gloves!
  26. Shire  X Logging

    Show us your Logging Horses

    Hi some good looking horses. Remember you don't need big horses just good ones. here are my pals Bill and Ron
  27. Matthew Storrs

    Battery saws makita vs Stihl and Husky

    Hi Doobin, my dad has a 135, I haven’t used it for a long time but I think the Makita has a lower chain speed. Although being electric and not being able to hear the revs like a petrol saw it’s quite hard to know for sure. If you have Makita batteries and charger anyway (the expensive bit) then you can get the mak for £135 or so. It’s absolutely brilliant for fencing and landscaping work (railways sleepers would be its upper comfortable limit) but it’d do them anyway. Like any saw but perhaps more so with electric a tip top chain is the key. I love the fact that I can have all my drills/grinders and chainsaw all running off the same batteries.
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