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waiting for him to bang his head on the handle when it was in the vertical position

Best before May 2022. I can assure you that's nowt in the grand scheme of things. I'll take no admonishment on food hygiene from you regardless. You appear to be eating off a baby changing station.

you can get battery powered knapsacks

We see it on here too frequently. Speaking in the context of the wider population, not of Arbtalkers: I reckon we might have reached the inflection point already, where more people get their "news" from socials and AI, rather than actual news agencies. Or "do their own research". This should be in its own thread really, but on AI doing science, I saw this today. Genesis Mission: why Trump’s plan to put AIs in charge of science could backfire THECONVERSATION.COM AI enthusiasts are right that projects like AlphaFold are a huge leap forward, but the philosophy of science shows why...

?? More relevant to those of us whom live in Scotland including yourself SP, your SNP during their most embarrassing period when they shared power with some green lunatics just to keep a majority position, actually went ahead and did it only to reverse it when the reality of their stupidity became clear. 5 The SNP government has reversed a ban on log burners in new-builds in Scotland, allowing them as both main and secondary heating systems in new homes. This change, effective from April 2024, followed concerns from rural communities who relied on them for heat during power outages. While log burners can now be installed in new buildings, the ban on mains gas and oil boilers as a primary heat source in new builds remains

Apart from the football, this is going to happen more and more often, people taking social medias as the truth and bypassing any checks - there are a few good examples out there. My favourite this month was an AI thing that read over 2 columns in an article and invented a new disease and I think then went on to find a cure for the disease it had invented! No human checks.

Even the Israelis stop a Tel Aviv derby. Maccabi ultras are military trained thugs.

I'm thinking of the bigger picture Davey. You should do the same occasionally. I thought I was fairly obviously talking globally. The UK is hardly known for it's plastics production industry is it? So no, I wasn't presenting you with an opportunity to hyjack yet another decent thread to push one of your tedious agendas. Keep up. AI alert! No need. Pretty sure we all know the ins and outs of burning wood. Given the forum, and even the thread title. You forgot to clip those in SP. As for hijacking a thread, it started off about wood burners and ended up in global plastic pollution 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️did I complain ??. Shit stirring just like the below comment at the start of your post. “which I do apologise” Anyway seeing as it’s been dragged down to the normal level, don’t you in reality burn imported coal SP rather than wood ?. I’ll not hold my breath for an answer.

Jumping back on topic for a moment, for which I do apologise. Back of my mind from last time around. The issue with the wood burners are the fine particulates in the soot, not carbon and so on. These are like what comes out of diesel exhaust fumes, get into the lungs and that causes the problems. Greater issues in towns of course - as mentioned above, the once a year fires on Christmas day using petrol station 'dry' logs that have sat in the rain for the last 6 months, waiting. So more efficient combustion means there are few fine particles up the chimney. If I remember right from a couple of years ago when the Tories wanted to do the same, it is more of an issue now that car exhausts are cleaner, catalytic converters, and electric cars where the combustion is a long way from towns in the power stations, that the wood smoke particles are becoming more significant in the mix. Not more than there were 10 years ago, just everything else is reducing. With micro plastics, once in the body we don't know what will happen with them but we have had centuries of experience with smoky fires. Digression to the topic, but micro plastics... every plastic thing that wears out leaves micro plastics. I wonder how long the world would clean itself though, for example this generation of fish consume great numbers, die, fall to the sea bed taking the plastics with them, gets buried with sand. Same with us, we consume them, die, get stuck in a hole somewhere and they are buried. So if we fixed the problem today even if they have a 'half life' of a thousand year a good portion might be under ground by then... though what cost to wildlife between now and then?

That's good to know. Maybe I'll wait for next year's black Friday deal on a vertec then.

No shit 42, I think everyone on here gets that don’t you 🤷‍♂️so “ no need”.

The fungi will get Alzheimer’s and forget how to do it though.

That's true on the M500 too, agreed it really helps with Y forks as the hopper sides go down parallel to the blade. Blades are expensive though.

Or just get spare saw out of the van ...

<I wonder, I would expect plastics to be a small part of oil use.> - I think you'll be surprised. And as I say, as it'll grow as fuel usage for oil declines. Wood is an absolute wonder material when you think about it. It has so many diverse properties and uses. It can be grown, cut, planed, smoothed, polished, screwed, nailed, glued, bent, laminated, burnt .............. It's almost infinitely repairable. And when it's reached the end of its useful life it's just good fungi, plant and micro organism food. Plastic on the other hand. It's always frustrating when a plastic thing breaks, it's generally very hard, normally impossible, to repair so just ends up as waste. With a half life of hundreds or thousands of years. But, it does readily breakdown enough to release toxic micro fibres and particles. Oh, and it's also full of other chemicals just itching to leach out. It's lovely stuff. People are discovering/developing fungi that can devour plastic, but I doubt it'll ever be enough to address the problem.

Right, so in your utopia we stopped using plastic tomorrow morning 9am. What do we do with it all, don't you dare say recycle as that's just fluffy language. Dig up all the waste dumps and incinerate, as that plastic takes what a million years to just turn into yet more micro plastic and chemical wastes!.

Yes a school boy mistake I should of tried a spray cleaner but I tried the old wire brush and it dident do for me 😔

You are correct, Globally, about 6% of oil is used for plastics, which is a small portion compared to the 87% used for transport, heating, and electricity. In 2019, this amounted to 9 million barrels of oil per day, but projections show this demand could increase significantly. While plastics are made from oil and gas feedstocks, some alternatives like bio-based plastics use renewable resources.

42 you mentioned Oil Companies revenues being lost, apart from the UK sector that is factually incorrect. I’ll leave you to it lad, you are obviously judging by your AI post and the last one itching for an argument. Shit stirring for the sake of it will do no one any favours.

Many thanks for all replies. There is no water supply at the field. Approx how many refills might I need for a 10-15L sprayer? I will do the proper maths but currently looking for an approximate figure if possible.

I thought so too The “AI alert “ post was totally pointless

I'm thinking of the bigger picture Davey. You should do the same occasionally. I thought I was fairly obviously talking globally. The UK is hardly known for it's plastics production industry is it? So no, I wasn't presenting you with an opportunity to hyjack yet another decent thread to push one of your tedious agendas. Keep up. Global plastic talks collapse as countries remain deeply divided WWW.BBC.CO.UK The latest round of UN-led talks have ended in deadlock, with disputes over plastic production and recycling. As if we're going to recycle our way out of this hole. Is that what you believe? I don't. Obviously the oil states are going to try to protect their revenues.

No need to bicker, we have some common ground on this thread

Grass will absolutely kill your trees via root competition for water. Plus voles will nest/find cover in it if thick (assuming no further grazing/cutting due to the trees) and eat your trees. 2000 trees should take about half a day or less for an experienced operator using a bog standard 15l knapsack, provided the trees are not miles away from each other. You don't want anything heavier on your back and there is no need for any convoluted contraptions or mechanical means as the trees are in shelters. Spray a circle around the base of the trees, make sure it is about a 1m across (0.5m radius) I suggest using Kerb Flo against the grass, it is a residual herbicide & doesn't affect anything else, even if you overspray the trees (no chance of that in the shelters anyway). Must be used in December and January, needs frost for activation. Light rain is helpful, don't spray when frozen or during heavy rain. Read the label, as usual. If the winter is as mild in your area as in mine, and or there are other things than grass are present you want to combine Kerb Flo with glyphosate even in the winter. This is all you need for the first season. If you did the Kerb right (you should end up with a bare patch of earth) and have nothing else growing on the field, you might not need to spray until the year after next. Docks and other nasties will conqueror the bare patch afterwards (or grass occasionally); as and when this happens go back with glyphosate April/May time each year. If you have strong bramble, you can use Grazon. Did I say always read the label and follow all relevant legislation, use of PPE and all that? Or pay someone to do it for you, if they know what are they doing should be done before lunchtime. Should be one man day plus some chemicals.