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    Review: EDER Titan 80 Ratchet Felling Wedge

    PROs:
    • Lots!
    CONs:
    • None!

    What a tool!

     

    I brought one of these Ratchet felling wedges over a year ago, reason being that I've always wanted a hydraulic version as i like the engineering principle, but at 2.5k the hydraulic ones are a bit expensive!

    These are a fifth of the price! So when i saw Treadlight Forestry advertising these on Facebook, i ordered one straight away (despite loads of typical bitchey Facebook comments)

    I kind of expected it to just sit in the truck not doing much, but I'm amazed at how much it gets used, and what it will lift/push over.

     

    25 ton lifting force, and lifts about the same height as 2 wedges stacked ontop of each other (which tips a tree a fair way!) However you can insert wedges into the open back cut, remove the ratchet wedge, wind in, re insert and keep going if needed (not yet!).

     

    Its really easy to use, much much less effort than banging wedges in. The last pic was 30c in summer, 30 trees to fell away from a school, no sweat was broken! most were leaning towards the school slightly, so we would normally have set a line in with a throwline (LOTS of faffing about!) No need with this little beast!

     

    Its really goon on dead trees, where banging wedges in shakes the whole tree, this gently pushes it over.

     

    The size is really compact, easy to find a place for it in the truck.

     

    Its relatively light, marketed as being able to hang it on your forestry belt is stretching it a bit, its too heavy for that imo - It weighs as much as a small ground saw.

     

    No problems at all so far, and its been a really good buy, if i lost this one id have no hesitations about buying another!

     

     

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    29 minutes ago, Silverhooker said:

    £500+ VAT seems a bit expensive for what looks like a fancy bottle jack with a wedge on the end or am i just a bit too tight ? (I'm Scottish).

    Seems like a lot. Saying that I'm from Cavan which is the Irish equivalent of the Scots. ?

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    How rough a tree will it push over thou??

     

    I currently work with a 20t bottle ( and got a proper 30T Treeman's on order which was not cheap but should last a long time) and had it struggling a few times.

    But seen me at full extension and tree still sitting balanced as so much wieght on the wrong side.

     

    From wot I was told there only good for medium sized trees with not too much back lean/wieght on them. So u still need something bigger Incan for the real hairy outside monsters.

    But can see it saving a lot of time not cutting the pocket at back and getting the stumps that bit lower

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    18 hours ago, breffni said:

    Seems like a lot. Saying that I'm from Cavan which is the Irish equivalent of the Scots. ?

    Cute Cavan Hoor!

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    19 hours ago, josharb87 said:

    Yep still going strong! 
     

    Well the casting inside did crack, the factory wanted it for inspection rather than send parts out and fixed it free of charge which I wasn’t expecting, great service! 

     

    it’s a valued tool in the truck, by the time @Kriss has lugged his tirfor and wire out the truck never mind the anchor, rope, throw line, or untangling the throw line or the hundred push n pulls of the tirfor lever, the tree’d be on the deck with the wedge :lol: 

     

    Cheeky bugger  😀 K

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    19 hours ago, Silverhooker said:

    £500+ VAT seems a bit expensive for what looks like a fancy bottle jack with a wedge on the end or am i just a bit too tight ? (I'm Scottish).

    Paid less fr me Series II an tirfor were free. K

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    13 hours ago, drinksloe said:

    How rough a tree will it push over thou??

     

    I currently work with a 20t bottle ( and got a proper 30T Treeman's on order which was not cheap but should last a long time) and had it struggling a few times.

    But seen me at full extension and tree still sitting balanced as so much wieght on the wrong side.

     

    From wot I was told there only good for medium sized trees with not too much back lean/wieght on them. So u still need something bigger Incan for the real hairy outside monsters.

    But can see it saving a lot of time not cutting the pocket at back and getting the stumps that bit lower

    @drinksloe when you are using the jack on a big back leaner, outside tree with all the heavy branches adding to the back weight, do you ever get the hinge failing from the stress that the jack puts on it?

     

    I can remember jacking over a big oak on a field edge, it all seemed to be going right, back into the wood, when suddenly the  hinge just let go and it went down 45 degrees into the field, a lot of clearing up. I felt that had I used the winch there would have been far less strain on the hinge.

    Edited by openspaceman
    typo

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    To be fair almost entirely in soft woods, with hard woods I would be wanting a winch on them esp after a certain size as I never think many hard wood hinges can be trusted.

    Seen the same happen with sycamore even with a tirfor on when tree starts to go and gravity takes over, just can't pump tirfor fast enough, I often put 2 ropes/winches on some hard woods now.

    And wouldn't even go near with a jack.

     

    And in honesty had a SS go sideways with me the other day, not massive massive, prob just under 4ft butt and not massively tall but corner so 2 bad leans on ( first track and green ride) and a lot of heavy branches

    Althou the smaller 35t tigercat said his machine would not look at moving it even on the deck, bigger tigercat driver was covering an another machine, so was a decent sized stick.

    Left it to last to see how the others went of similar size but only the 1 lean, went over a doodle. Even thou wind was against me.

    After I gubbed tree wind really picked up, 

    Was a struggle jacking and wedging hard but eventually got back cut opened up 4+" and jack going really well thought I had it and hinge snapped on me.

    Luckily I got it far enough it only went over the ride and not the track.

     

    Should off put it there in 1st place and saved a bit of work and worry or put my tirfor on it just to take wind pressure off.

    Hindsight

     

     

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    @drinksloe thats the thing in Arb, that doubt in yr head-had a 35m Syc' heavily weighted over a brand new house,  put guy rope on it with JCB loader with tines stuck in ground, an other rope on tirfor to tug it over with High lifts in backcut. Site manager was shitting it. K

    Edited by Khriss
    ( they had ' forgot abt it' on the site - whilst it was just a concrete pad ..... 😑

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    3 hours ago, Khriss said:

    @drinksloe thats the thing in Arb, that doubt in yr head-had a 35m Syc' heavily weighted over a brand new house,  put guy rope on it with JCB loader with tines stuck in ground, an other rope on tirfor to tug it over with High lifts in backcut. Site manager was shitting it. K

     

    Done a few like that right behind my own house,  minus the machines.

    Just a solo effort on tirfor and another winch.

    Was laying them along the house within 4m or so, surrounded by other targets too.

    No matter how often u've done it before still squeaky bum time on a few.

    Think I gave myself false confidence with that 1, had doubts 1st thing but rest went over so easily despite gusting wind, but when gusting wind got stronger and more constant I should never have tried to put it where I did.

    Every day's a school day, and no one was hurt

     

    To me I'm sure they will be brilliant for 70% of trees in forestry work but u still need a jack to do the other 15% and the last 5 prob need a hurricane in right direction or a real winch.

     

    Yes a jacks heavy and takes time but if I've walked 1 mile into a wood I should be able to handle most trees I need to do.

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