Getting to Grips with subsidence

[Nick Harrison]

anyone done this with the AA?

[Chris at eden]

Yes I have. What would you like to know.

[Nick Harrison]

hello chris

 

am in a new role as a tree officer having to deal to root damage claims. have got up to speed on the process of dealing with potential claims from an insurance perspective but I don't have a thorough knowledge on the whole subsidence issue. I've trawled through various arb journal papers and read up what I can elsewhere but just feel I need a better general understanding. what with budgets being tight with LA's I need to pick carefully which courses/seminars I choose to attend.

 

So was basically looking for a general opinion on how useful the course would be for someone in my position, feel sure it's a worthwhile course but just thought i'd dig for some feedback first?

[sloth]

I'm afraid I cant comment on the AA course, but I did the CAS course a while ago. Dr Heuch is a very knowledgeable chap, was a good day and I think cheaper than the AA one...

 

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[David Humphries]

If you haven't already it's probably worth your while downloading and having a read of the LTOA's Joint Mitigation Protocol & also the JMP Tree Pruning Criteria, both in relation to subsidence.

 

Downloads | Joint Mitigation Protocol

 

It won't give you every thing you need but should provide additional info on the evidentiary and contacts side of things

 

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[Paul Melarange]

Hi Nick,

 

I did the course last year. I found it very useful and would certainly recommend it. I also did the follow up subsidence workshop this year, which provided good revision as well as some welcome help with a particular case that I was involved with at the time.

 

The course was attended by both consultants and Tree officers (probably half and half).

 

Give me a call if you require any further info.

 

Best regards

 

Paul

[Nick Harrison]

I'm afraid I cant comment on the AA course, but I did the CAS course a while ago. Dr Heuch is a very knowledgeable chap, was a good day and I think cheaper than the AA one...

 

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that's good to know, didn't know CAS ran a similar course, will check out their website, thanks

[Nick Harrison]

If you haven't already it's probably worth your while downloading and having a read of the LTOA's Joint Mitigation Protocol & also the JMP Tree Pruning Criteria, both in relation to subsidence.

 

Downloads | Joint Mitigation Protocol

 

It won't give you every thing you need but should provide additional info on the evidentiary and contacts side of things

 

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cheers David

 

have copies of both sat in front of me on my pile of 'stuff to read' as I type...about to spend a wet week in a tent in the gower so am sure to have plenty of reading time!

[Chris at eden]

hello chris

 

am in a new role as a tree officer having to deal to root damage claims. have got up to speed on the process of dealing with potential claims from an insurance perspective but I don't have a thorough knowledge on the whole subsidence issue. I've trawled through various arb journal papers and read up what I can elsewhere but just feel I need a better general understanding. what with budgets being tight with LA's I need to pick carefully which courses/seminars I choose to attend.

 

So was basically looking for a general opinion on how useful the course would be for someone in my position, feel sure it's a worthwhile course but just thought i'd dig for some feedback first?

 

Hi Nick,

 

The AA course is good but quite technical if you don't already have a decent understanding. There will 20+ people in there as well so not that interactive. May not be a good choice for your first attempt.

 

The CAS course isn't a subsidence course, its a mortgage report writing course. I've done that also. There is a difference. Subs course will be about trying to determine the cause of existing damage. A mortgage course is about trying to predict whether it will happen. Subs investigation is based on assessing accurate data such as soils analysis and trial holes. Mortgage is based on assumed values like geological surveys maps to determine soil type, and NHBC guidance to determine foundation depth based on the age of the building. You will never be asked to do level monitoring for a mortgage report and I doubt you could win a subs case by using geo survey maps. Does that make sense?

 

I have done subs investigations as an LA TO in the past and I now do mortgage reports and although some of the info overlaps they are not the same thing. If you want to do subs investigation do a subs course. Tree life do a one day subs workshop. I haven't done this but I did my tech cert and level 6 diploma with them and you cover subs in those and that was excellent. I also did tree life's mortgage course and I would highly recommend that also if you were looking at doing mortgage reports. An excellent workshop. You can't skimp on courses with things this technical. As you can see I have already done two mortgage courses and with info gained from both I am very confident in undertaking these reports but I will still do the Myerscough one at some point.

 

What arb qualifications have you already done and where are you based?

[Nick Harrison]

Hi Nick,

 

I did the course last year. I found it very useful and would certainly recommend it. I also did the follow up subsidence workshop this year, which provided good revision as well as some welcome help with a particular case that I was involved with at the time.

 

The course was attended by both consultants and Tree officers (probably half and half).

 

Give me a call if you require any further info.

 

Best regards

 

Paul

 

Hi Paul

 

the follow up workshop sounds interesting.

 

thanks for the offer of further advice, may well take you up on it.

 

have some interesting cases looming at work and could be handy to compare thoughts at some point.

 

much appreciated