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Re: Nutrition
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Being a bit thick, are Protiens lean meats and fish, and Carbohydrates are greens as a general rule? What about salts, sugars and fats? So 2 parts carb and 1 part protien is good for energy, what about if you want to bulk up too?
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Re: Nutrition
To bulk up take one gram of protein per pound of body weight per day, so if you weigh 200Ilbs take 200grams of protein per day. Take it at regular intervals and take no more than 20-30grams at a time otherwise it will pass through your system with no effect other than damage your kidneys.
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So you just eat normally, or as Darren187 suggests, then the extra protien portions ontop?
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Re: Nutrition
I try to get my protein from food alone Josh but sometimes it is hard to do, so I always have a tub of protein powder in the house for when I'm busy with work and don't have the time to eat properly.
Another good tip that works for me is to take 20grams of protein half an hour before training and another 20 grams half an hour after training. If you really want to bulk up then train only one body part per session with no more than 16 sets and train for no more than 1hr and 15 minutes. |
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Re: Nutrition
Ok, thanks Mick, Diet and nutrition is starting to intrest me
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Re: Nutrition
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![]() Proteins are foods that contain a good range of amino acids, which rebuild muscle cells. Protein containing foods are measured on their 'biological value', the higher their BV the better. Food-Info.net : Biological Value Fats are more complicated, but this page explains them quite well (even if it says it for women lol, it also applies equally for men too!) Dietary Fat and Cholesterol Carbohydrates (sugars) are even more complicated then fats and proteins. Trying to keep it simple, good/beneficial carbs are pretty much all vegetables, fruits that have or contain bright coloured flesh, and grains. Bad carbs are generally heavily processed foods like cakes, combined chocolates etc... these all take a long time to break down in the digestive system, and once broken down provide very little nutritional value. In general the less processing a carbohydrate food has the better, nutritionally, it is for you. Carbohydrates (EUFIC) It would be very hard, and quite boring though, if you ate all raw and non processed foods all the time! So a little of the not so good foods will not do you any major harm. If you plan on bulking up, and I'll assume you're referring to gaining muscle, then accompanied with a good weight training program, the same 2 parts carbs and 1 part protein still applies, you simply have to consume more calories each day than your body can burn off, so that you can repair and build more muscle fibers. The easiest way to do this is just by adding one or two extra meals to your daily diet on the days you work out! The other more technical way to work out how much protein (carbs and fats) to eat daily is to count calories and use a macro nutrient breakdown, which divides the three main food groups into percentages of your daily calorie total. It's a much more accurate way to measure your daily intake, and the results are often superior to 'just winging it', but it's also quite time consuming. Macronutrient Recommendations Carb, Protein, Fat Calorie Calculator Salt, the RDA (recommended daily allowance) for an adult is around 6 grams, which can be added to foods. If you eat a wide range of foods you will probably get that amount each day anyway, as salt is often added to food during processing. Last edited by Darren187; 09-01-11 at 11:33 PM.. |
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Re: Nutrition
No one has mentioned flapjack, homemade with quality ingredients. One of the best foods for raising sugar levels with instant effect. Quick to make. Top with chocolate, that will alleviate the 3 oclock crash
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Re: Nutrition
Fruit has it's place but generally speaking is a poor choice for lasting energy due to fructose(or fruit sugars) being simple carbs,good for spiking insulin but nothing more.
Also to correct a piece of incorrect advice 1 gram of protein to bodyweight will not provide any effect for bulking up that is a daily maintenance levelthat everyone should be adhering to,1.5-to 2 grams along with an increase in dietary fats will increase muscle size along with correct resistance exercise.Also carbs are over rated,no such thing as an essential carb. For health eat like a caveman.Plenty fibrous veg,and quality cuts of fatty and White meat,and eggs and milk.That's all we were designed to eat and our bodies digestivly speaking have not changed since,however our eating habits have. Modern grains and carbs are to blame for obesity and diabetes and digestive issuses most folk suffer in modern day times. |
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Re: Nutrition
I'm never very far away from this book Amazon.co.uk: new optimum nutrition bible: Books
Also check out The Fit For Life food combining chart. It lists the major food groups and best forms of each. It used to come with the book Nutrition is like anything else, baffling, boring and too much faf unless you are really motivated to do something about it. Then it's easy because you are ready to learn. Low blood sugar or highs and lows are caused simply by either a shortage of Chromium and or your body is set to burn sugar instead of fat. The 'wall' is when your body runs out of carbs, your tank is empty and no amount of refilling will make any difference to the hollow feeling. Eat like a horse and still feel like you could eat a horse and go back for the saddle. Learn for yourself from good sources.
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certainly applies to me. I won't even stop once I'm working otherwise I can't get up the energy or enthusiasm to get going again. It does mean that I can allow myself to knock off a bit early though.



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