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It Is eleagnusish but not spikey as I recall and didn't have that scaly dusty rubbish that chokes you

 

I wasn't aware of irritant dust from Eleagnus. I get the impression that the more mature the specimen the fewer spikes it has: just my impression mind but if you regard the thorns as a defence mechanism to keep grazing beasts off the young growth it would make sense to find fewer in a biggie.

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I wasn't aware of irritant dust from Eleagnus. I get the impression that the more mature the specimen the fewer spikes it has: just my impression mind but if you regard the thorns as a defence mechanism to keep grazing beasts off the young growth it would make sense to find fewer in a biggie.

 

 

Maybe that's as close as we'll get Jon, fruits all wrong though as far as I can make out.

 

Not like any sarcococca or osmanthus I've seen I'm afraid Steve

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100% not a hornbeam. Bark wrong, leaves wrong, flowers wrong.

 

You're not aware of the meme here then? There seems to be an unwritten rule that someone must declare "hornbeam" in any identification question. Stems from an old thread. I know it's not really a hornbeam :)

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