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Looking at replacing the Iveco Crew Cab tipper with a Defender 130 Double Cab Pick up.

We don't transport chip all the time, quite often arrisings are dead hedged or chipped & left in situ.
The most important thing is personel & tool transport.

I'm thinking along the lines of getting a tipping trailer to shift chip, logs etc....
Any recommendations?

Would it be worth having the back converted to a tipper?
Or is it just too small?

Are the standard Michelin XZL's worth their salt?

Can it really tow the stated 3500 kg's ?

Also would like to rig with a Winch.
Recommendations?



Appreciate any comments pro or con, as I'm a novice interms of owning/running LandRovers.



Many thanks

David



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Three words, dont do it!

Actually, if you're getting one brand new, I'm slightly jealous.

It will be fresher than an artic breeze.

Until 4 stinky Arbs have their filthy way with her









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Do you have a budget to stick to, or is that a dirty word at city of london?

Hydraulic winch would be my choice, I'm sure there will be plenty of drooling landy buffs here very shortly, as soon as they have finished polishing their knobs etc.

i have a 130 twin cab but its an older 300tdi engine, its ok, great for hauling 5 people and lots of kit about, but i wouldnt think it would be worth converting the back to a tipper in my opinion, i have used mine with a tipping trailer for brash etc and it worked well and towed it fine.

regarding the tyres i have BFG all terrains on mine, but will be changing them to a mud terrain, as they are fine when the truck is empty but put a trailer on the back and you need as much grip as you can get to move it.

I have a truckman top on mine which is ply lined, had it on the weightbridge yesterday empty at 2540kg

Your going to get a lot of 'do it' & 'dont', imo they are great motors,Nene Overland 4x4, Land Rover Defender 90, 110, 130, Discovery, Freelander, Range Rover Sales, Service, Parts, Hire and Preparation - ,talk to Andrew, these people will give you any info you want, they do lovely conversions,prepare expedition and specialist vehicles.There is a vast range of winch manufacturers, Warn being as good as anything else. Landy is a formidable tow motor on/of road. the michelin tyres are less likely than more agressive tread paterns on grass and firm ground. Not comprehensive I'm afraid, sufice to say,I have used nothing else for 15 years.

Go for the warn winch if you want it electric, Nene overland or Frogs Island are both very good. If you had the back converted to a tipper it would be small but toeing 3.5t would be no problem as on wet grass etc you can utilise the low range dif lock. If you do get one just make sure the guys know how to use the diff properly as driving off road on dry ground will lead to expensive repairs.

David ,do you need a 130?

If your just taking tools and men what about a twin cab 110?

Plenty tree surgeons use them. Handier to manouver too.

I had 40+ K off a set of XZL's, good off road but noisy on road and grip isn't that great.

I've just changed to BFG a/T's in a wider tyre to try and maintain some grip whilst having better road manners.

All landys will tow 3500kg.

Im with Nige on this one, the 110 and 130 share same cab and running gear, still tow 3.5t, only difference is the Hi-cap rear tub being longer and wider.

The 110 dbl cab is capable of carrying 4 or 5 crew couple of sets of climbing kit, several saws, tools etc in the tub. Only downfall being you cant get anything in thats 6 foot long! Even diagonally

Bloody hell, your landrovers must be much bigger than the ones I've had. I found that even 3 men with kit was to much for a doublecab landrover. In fact, I cant think of a worse vehicle for carrying crew - cramped, noisy, leaky and uncomfortable.

David, I have run 4 130 landrovers now for Arb crews, its biggest advantage is its off road ability and its compactness when working in narrow lanes etc.
They also are one of the best towing vehicles out there.
But as a crew vehicle? The only way to run one as a crew vehicle is to have a dedicated kit box on the back, like the quad-tech bodies.

In your position, I would be more tempted to go for a Mercedes Sprinter or similar.