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Re: Crane tastic

Forwarders don't need testing, as far as I'm aware.
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Forwarders don't need testing, as far as I'm aware.
Ten years ago the rules were that cranes needed independent inspection (as per LOLER) but 3pt linkage, front loaders, digger and grapple loaders where no one other than a driver protected by a fops/pops/rops cab was within the working envelope.

There is still a duty under PUWER to maintain the equipment in good working order.
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There is still a duty under PUWER to maintain the equipment in good working order.
My kit is well looked after , I have a mechanic and plant fitter on my team so nothing goes in noticed
had a couple of hours at firewood this afternoon as the kids were entertained, turned out lovely
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As far as I am aware we are using forestry loaders and not cranes, we do not have a hook on the end of the loader and do not require to hold a load in position and/or have a drop test as such, if you ask a supplier re crane test they always have a list of words to make it not a crane, similar situation to winch rope and lifting v. pulling. ( wish I had a firewood day! spent most of it trying to i.d. correct oil for van longlife service and ended up with fuel filter not fitting holder, back to the drawing board
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As far as I am aware we are using forestry loaders and not cranes, we do not have a hook on the end of the loader and do not require to hold a load in position and/or have a drop test as such, if you ask a supplier re crane test they always have a list of words to make it not a crane, similar situation to winch rope and lifting v. pulling. ( wish I had a firewood day! spent most of it trying to i.d. correct oil for van longlife service and ended up with fuel filter not fitting holder, back to the drawing board
Yes that's my understanding but in my post I left off the words "are excepted"

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Ten years ago the rules were that cranes needed independent inspection (as per LOLER) but 3pt linkage, front loaders, digger and grapple loaders where no one other than a driver protected by a fops/pops/rops cab was within the working envelope are excepted.

And I definitely was not meaning to cast aspersions about anybody on this forum's equipment.
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No probs, I was bluffing, it's bent wire and nails that hold them all together
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im not jealous!!
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As far as I am aware we are using forestry loaders and not cranes, we do not have a hook on the end of the loader and do not require to hold a load in position and/or have a drop test as such, if you ask a supplier re crane test they always have a list of words to make it not a crane, similar situation to winch rope and lifting v. pulling. ( wish I had a firewood day! spent most of it trying to i.d. correct oil for van longlife service and ended up with fuel filter not fitting holder, back to the drawing board
im sure our botex trailer gets loler'd, the frount tractor loader on the mccormick and even the winch, tis all done by alliance
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im sure our botex trailer gets loler'd, the frount tractor loader on the mccormick and even the winch, tis all done by alliance
You can get them done if you so wish.

Some firms have H&S polices that are above and beyond whats legally required.
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You can get them done if you so wish.

Some firms have H&S polices that are above and beyond whats legally required.
Many civils firms insist on compliance certificates and LOLER testing and you won't get past induction without them and CPCS for the machine driver.
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